Posted on Aug 31, 2021
What is something that you wish you would’ve been told about before enlisting?
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That 10% of the people you deal with hate their job. It doesn’t matter if they volunteered to do it. 10% of people are unhappy no matter what. Those 10% can ruine the morale of a unit.
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LCpl Sidney Green
Oh the percent is far higher than that. It estimate a minimum of 80%. In fact, I think its less that they hate their jobs as much as it is the person they work for -- their direct superior.
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SFC (Join to see)
Not talking about toxic leadership. That’s a whole new topic. The 10%ers will exist even in units with good leadership. They’ll exist in good outside jobs. They exist in every aspect of our lives and they ruin morale whenever and wherever they can. They are the people who are unhappy with who they are but blame everyone and everything for their problems, and want everyone else to be as unhappy as they are, LCpl Sidney Green
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LCpl Sidney Green
I get it now, although I still think the two are closely related. Nevertheless, when you put it that way, they can most certainly be evaluated and examined separately. This is something I'll need to spend a lot more time looking in to.
I can, however, say that I did read the results from a survey that determined nearly 50% of the workforce hated their jobs. Although that was a long time ago, so I'm not sure if those values still hold true today. To be clear, is that 10% an estimated amount of the population that are miserable within all groups no matter what?
In any event, I look forward to reading the responses here, and learning more about this valuable topic.
I can, however, say that I did read the results from a survey that determined nearly 50% of the workforce hated their jobs. Although that was a long time ago, so I'm not sure if those values still hold true today. To be clear, is that 10% an estimated amount of the population that are miserable within all groups no matter what?
In any event, I look forward to reading the responses here, and learning more about this valuable topic.
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SFC (Join to see)
LCpl Sidney Green - 100% upfront, these are merely my observations. It's nothing scientific. I've just noticed, as a Marine, a Soldier, a troop, a leader, and now a civilian, it seems very consistent: 10% of the people I had/have to deal with were just truly unhappy people. It didn't matter if my CoC was good or bad. It didn't matter if I was in recruiting, an instructor, in a line unit, or as a civilian. Now, I agree with you on the toxic leadership part. If your leaders are crap, far more than 10% will be unhappy, but if your command climate changes, the morale of the unit changes, but those 10% will still be unhappy. Now, studies do show the number of people who call themselves "unhappy" runs between 8-13%. Why are they? Who knows? Maybe they just choose to be? Maybe they aren't mature enough to take responsibility for their own happiness? I've known people, had people I hung around with, who were unhappy at work but not on their own time. I've also known people who weren't happy at work and weren't happy off work. Those are the ones I'm talking about.
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How important civilian education is once you join the Army. It sets you ahead of your peers at the lower levels and is practically a requirement at the higher levels.
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CPT (Join to see)
Oh yea….. I forget to appreciate my civilian education position I came in with. With a masters I’m basically golden so long as I check the box on everything else.
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I wasn't told KP was washing a bazillion dishes. I thought it meant peeling potatoes.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
I was lucky during KP. The DFAC manager knew I was going to college and insisted I would watch over the pantry. I had it easy.
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