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Posted on Mar 11, 2015
SGT Ben Keen
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SSG Philip Parsons
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I believe you have a great point. I am doing a research project on the stigma of PTSD and how many veterans are suffering from unseen wounds. I would like to use this in my paper, would you mind if I quoted you on this?
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SGT Ben Keen
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SSG Philip Parsons - Send me a private message and we can discuss.
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1LT Nick Kidwell
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SSG Philip Parsons - I have studied PTSD for my MS in Psychology. Please PM me if you'd like input.
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Maj Chris Nelson
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I think that the civilian misperception may be out there...and there are groups such as the American Legion, VFW, AMVETS and others that are truly striving to care for all to the best advantage. I would actually pose that if you walked into a room of vets and ask how many actually have the PTSD diagnosis, your numbers would be somewhat less... The reason for this is that there are many vets that function enough to refuse being evaluated/treated for PTSD (I am one of those). There are many reasons...my reason is that there is way too much talk of the VA submitting paperwork that would rescind my rights to own firearms with a PTSD diagnosis...Not sure if it is true or not, but I am functioning well enough that I don't want to take that chance.
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SSG Philip Parsons
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SPC David Shaffer Thank you for replying to this thread. Would you mind PM me? I have some questions for you about this issue, thanks.
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SFC James Waggle
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Thanks SPC Shaffer for your information. Hoping that everything is going well for you.
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Sgt Kate Ross
Sgt Kate Ross
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I know when I complete the ATF Form 4473 it only asks if I've ever been ADJUDICATED mentally defective. It's a legal proceeding. Can the VA adjudicate a mental deficiency all by itself?
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Sgt Daniel V.
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http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?rgn=div8&node=27:3.0.1.2.3.2.1.1
contains the current definition you are looking for.
But to answer you question NO having PTSD alone cannot make you ineligible but if that PTSD makes you Legally incompentant (cannot legally control your life) then the VA will send you a letter such as the one here http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/02/25/veterans-gun-seizure-hoax-debunked-somewhat/
and you will be given an opportunity to fight it. So no having PTSD does not automatically make you ineligible. So go ahead submit a claim.
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1LT Nick Kidwell
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IMHO, organizations like the American Legion and VFW attempt to cater to the "80%" while addressing the needs of the the other 20%. They need to adjust to fit the 21st Century veteran, but they are at least trying.
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SGT Ben Keen
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1LT Nick Kidwell - while I agree with you that the American Legion and the VFW are attempting to cover the 80%'ers I think, as you suggested, they are missing the mark. There is no perfect solution for all Veterans, I am just trying to express the point that not every Veteran falls into the "severally wounded" group but still require some assistance (not a hand out).
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1LT Nick Kidwell
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There have been times when I could use a hand...employment services, PTSD-related anger management, simple camaraderie...

But in general, I have found that no one organization hits the mark, and none of them do a great job of going to where the veteran is; the veteran must actively seek the help they need. If they don't seek the help, generally they do not GET the help.

In the case of veterans with severe emotional and psychological damage, this may result in homelessness, substance abuse, and suicide.
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SSG Philip Parsons
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I have brought up the issue in school about the veteran becoming isolated and not getting help out side of the military. Do you think that signing up for the VA should be mandatory? Do you think that the veteran would be more inclined to get help if he was already a part of the VA? ...just some of my questions...
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1LT Nick Kidwell
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The VA itself is overwhelmed and broken. There are awesome personnel within the system, but it is clunky and cannot handle the current influx of new veterans needing care.

I'd say before mandating ANYthing regarding the VA, it should be fixed from the ground up.
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