Posted on Oct 8, 2014
Why 75% of young Americans unable to serve in the military
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75% of young people ages 17 to 24 are currently unable to enlist in the United States military. These are the most common barriers for potential recruits: failure to graduate high school, a criminal record, and physical fitness issues, including obesity.
What do these statistics say about young Americans and today’s society? Should we be alarmed by this data, or should we not be so concerned since the military is downsizing?
What do these statistics say about young Americans and today’s society? Should we be alarmed by this data, or should we not be so concerned since the military is downsizing?
Posted 10 y ago
Responses: 96
The following and not in any certain order
1. Fat and Lazy
2. Drugs & Booze
3. dumber than a box of rocks
4. Has children
5. Health issues
6. Bleeding Heart Liberal
7. Mommy & Daddy would not approve
8. XBOX
9 PLAYSTATION
10 MINCRAFT
11 PC GAMES
12 Boy Friend / Girl Friend
13 Chicken Shit
14 Too Cool
15 Anti American
16 Will Run North or South in case of Draft
17 Objector status
18 Criminal Record
19 Pervert
20 Bat Shit Crazy
21 Can't Handle Military life.
22 can't handle the PT
23 Too short
24 Too tall
25 Can't speak English
26 Built like a Brick Shit House but can not make tape (body builder types)
27 Uniform and boot size not in inventory
28 Drank the PC Kool-Aid
29 Their a Hippie
30 Occupy what ever member
1. Fat and Lazy
2. Drugs & Booze
3. dumber than a box of rocks
4. Has children
5. Health issues
6. Bleeding Heart Liberal
7. Mommy & Daddy would not approve
8. XBOX
9 PLAYSTATION
10 MINCRAFT
11 PC GAMES
12 Boy Friend / Girl Friend
13 Chicken Shit
14 Too Cool
15 Anti American
16 Will Run North or South in case of Draft
17 Objector status
18 Criminal Record
19 Pervert
20 Bat Shit Crazy
21 Can't Handle Military life.
22 can't handle the PT
23 Too short
24 Too tall
25 Can't speak English
26 Built like a Brick Shit House but can not make tape (body builder types)
27 Uniform and boot size not in inventory
28 Drank the PC Kool-Aid
29 Their a Hippie
30 Occupy what ever member
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SSG Robert Reynolds
I commented on another post that we as Americans have utterly forgotten our history in the process of systematically removing most curricula from our basic education systems.
We originated as the United Kingdom's Land of Misfit Toys.
We originated as the United Kingdom's Land of Misfit Toys.
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PO2 Chris Stanley
The entitlement attitude has made our youth soft! Most regard service as self-service!
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SFC Wade W.
FN Mike McCormack - When I enlisted in '83, I was a high school dropout. I did really well on the ASVAB and was allowed to enter with a waiver. That waiver required me to get my G.E.D. or equivalency within one year after reaching my first duty assignment.
When I reached the 8th M.P. Co, my commander wouldn't even place me into a platoon until I went to the Education Center and got scheduled for the necessary classes to pass the test. I took the test that same day and passed with a High School Equivalency from my high school in Albuquerque, NM. I was one of the fortunate ones.
I think the Army tightening requirements like they think they are the Air Force or Navy is a big mistake. They should bring back the waiver that I received. There are a lot of very smart people who drop out because they are bored in high school. The curricula are too easy for them, and they feel they are wasting their time. They want to get on with their lives. Just change the order of things. If they do well on the ASVAB, let them have access to the G.E.D. systems before they enter the military. If they pass the pre-test with a set score, then let them enlist with the waiver I got in with or something similar.
They're cutting out a large group of intelligent people who are at an age where discipline isn't their strong suit. Put them in basic training where they can be taught discipline and where they will come out the other side with discipline and many other good living and job skills! When done right, the D.O.D. won't lose a dime. Instead, they will be gaining a pool of highly qualified future Soldiers.
When I reached the 8th M.P. Co, my commander wouldn't even place me into a platoon until I went to the Education Center and got scheduled for the necessary classes to pass the test. I took the test that same day and passed with a High School Equivalency from my high school in Albuquerque, NM. I was one of the fortunate ones.
I think the Army tightening requirements like they think they are the Air Force or Navy is a big mistake. They should bring back the waiver that I received. There are a lot of very smart people who drop out because they are bored in high school. The curricula are too easy for them, and they feel they are wasting their time. They want to get on with their lives. Just change the order of things. If they do well on the ASVAB, let them have access to the G.E.D. systems before they enter the military. If they pass the pre-test with a set score, then let them enlist with the waiver I got in with or something similar.
They're cutting out a large group of intelligent people who are at an age where discipline isn't their strong suit. Put them in basic training where they can be taught discipline and where they will come out the other side with discipline and many other good living and job skills! When done right, the D.O.D. won't lose a dime. Instead, they will be gaining a pool of highly qualified future Soldiers.
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Today's American culture promotes laziness and individualism; two characteristics that are in total opposition to military service. The services even lowered enlistment standards when both, OEF and OIF were going simultaneously. There is a reason that so few have ever served and why our all-volunteer force is so small in comparison to other nations. Even the majority of our elected officials have never served because they care more about themselves and their political careers than true service to the nation.
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SSgt (Join to see)
what disappointed me so much, during QEF/OIF was that , even though I was told by SEVERAL recruiters, along w/ MEPS, that I was a desirable candidate for service, I was told by the Dept of the Air Force that I could not reenlist because they would not upgrade my RE code from 4 to 3, even though the reasons for the code were proven to be incorrect (long story).
So, not only are few eligible to join, but those that are prior service & can pass all batteries of tests to get back in, are turned down.
Frustrating as all hell...
So, not only are few eligible to join, but those that are prior service & can pass all batteries of tests to get back in, are turned down.
Frustrating as all hell...
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SGM Mikel Dawson
When I was a kid growing up, my Mom's favorite saying was , "Get outside", so my brother and I was always outside playing. I grew up in the country, so during the summer to play baseball, we rode our bikes to town. During summers in high school I worked physical jobs. That's the way most of my friends grew up as well.
Too much electronic games today and too many not getting out.
Too much electronic games today and too many not getting out.
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Maj Gail Lofdahl
SGM Mikel Dawson - Sadly, parents no longer allow their children the free rein we enjoyed. How many parents even allow their kids to go trick-or-treating without a parental escort? As a grade school kid, my mom packed me a peanut butter sandwich and a thermos of milk, and my friends and I rode bikes all day together. But today's parents have been convinced that danger lurks around every corner, and that they're "neglectful parents" if they don't "bubble wrap" their kid to protect him or her from any conceivable harm. They don't allow the kids to struggle or stand on their own two feet, and then are mystified when their child is still living in their basement at age 27. And don't even get me started on "home schoolers." I taught community college for 20 years, and actually had a parent ask me to make sure his daughter (age 18!) didn't talk to any boys when she was on break! I explained that "chaperone" wasn't in my job description, and that I wasn't allowed to discuss anything about an adult student with his or her parent. Can you believe it?
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This is generation what have you done for me lately. Besides they all do prescription drugs, smoke weed, light themselves on fire and let's not forget the choking themselves unconscious. This generation's idea of serving their country lives in three words: Call of Duty.
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PO3 Jody Wangen
my children do not do drugs, prescription or otherwise. they do not light themselves on fire or choke themselves or anyone else. Nor do they think military life is like call of duty. my 28 yr old is a marine of 7 yrs standing with a beautiful wife and daughter.
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SGT Chad Mooney
I don't think he said everyone of this generation does this. If he did, I missed it somewhere in the text LOL.
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SSG (Join to see)
I making an observation on this generation, not your children in specific. Good job on making sure your children are raised right.
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SSG (Join to see)
As a 49 year old SGT promotable who is looking at potentially being rcp ed. I am asking myself that since the military decided to make it very hard to make Ssg, who is going to take my place? I used to think the Army would be fine raising the standards for staying in, but I am noticing a trend of a lot of quality NCO s being let go. Who replaces the quality leaders? I notice is there is no replacement and it is going to hurt our young servicemenbers in the long run. Now about the young service members who are the future of our military, why would they try to stay in if they are not being mentored properly. We spread have a hard enough time getting young men and women to take our place, now even when we do get them in the military they do not stay. We have a lot of issues here.
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