Posted on Sep 10, 2015
Would you support a military coup in the United States?
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SSgt Alex Robinson that is a loaded question. It needs more information than provided in the article. What would be the reasoning behind such an event? What would be the objective? How long would the military maintain control? How would it be done while still upholding the constitution?
The only scenario that I can see something like this would be if the Federal Government decided that they were going to remove the constitution, and that our constitutional freedoms were no longer valid. In that scenario, the military would be oath bound to intervene. The first thing that we swear to uphold when enlisting/commissioning is to support and defend the constitution of the United States. It trumps everything else.
A military coup would create huge issues. There would be rioting, there would be looting, there would be open rebellion in the streets. I think it would lead to blood shed. Furthermore, a military coup would weaken our ability to defend our interests. A coup would require all branches of the armed forces working together. This would also mean diverting resources. Worse still, the U.S. Dollar would be so weakened by such an event that we would be economically crippled. This will lead to more unrest. Then the military would need to enforce martial law requiring more resources. Opportunistic enemies might see this as their opportunity to take direct action against us with our military fighting at home.
It would make for great historical fiction, or a great movie. It would not be something that would be great in reality.
The only scenario that I can see something like this would be if the Federal Government decided that they were going to remove the constitution, and that our constitutional freedoms were no longer valid. In that scenario, the military would be oath bound to intervene. The first thing that we swear to uphold when enlisting/commissioning is to support and defend the constitution of the United States. It trumps everything else.
A military coup would create huge issues. There would be rioting, there would be looting, there would be open rebellion in the streets. I think it would lead to blood shed. Furthermore, a military coup would weaken our ability to defend our interests. A coup would require all branches of the armed forces working together. This would also mean diverting resources. Worse still, the U.S. Dollar would be so weakened by such an event that we would be economically crippled. This will lead to more unrest. Then the military would need to enforce martial law requiring more resources. Opportunistic enemies might see this as their opportunity to take direct action against us with our military fighting at home.
It would make for great historical fiction, or a great movie. It would not be something that would be great in reality.
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SSgt Alex Robinson
PO3 Steven Sherrill I'm only providing what I could find. My reason for posting this article is that I was shocked by the percentage that would support an coup. I want more info such as who was polled, etc.
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Let's rephrase the question to take out the ridiculous notion of romance and the fetish with rebellion, SSgt Alex Robinson. Would you support the slaughter of American citizens loyal to the government? Would you support the overthrow of the rule of law and the order on which hundreds of millions of Americans depend? Would you sacrifice the future prosperity of unborn billions to slake the twisted thirst for revolutionary "glory" of so many self-proclaimed patriots?
I don't want to assume that you actually support a military coup, but the only reasonable alternative is a shameless ploy for influence points.
A violent overthrow of the American government would hand our enemies the win they have collectively been seeking for 240 years.
I don't want to assume that you actually support a military coup, but the only reasonable alternative is a shameless ploy for influence points.
A violent overthrow of the American government would hand our enemies the win they have collectively been seeking for 240 years.
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SSgt (Join to see)
I think INFLUENCE POINTS ARE not his goal but this gets discussed a lot and is a touchy topic and perhaps dangerous but in no way an endorsement of coups. I would never post this kind of question but quite frankly sick of all forms of censorship here.
A year or so ago someone asked the question of whether you would go against family or friends in some kind of unrest under martial law. We have had people come out of nowhere and then disappear. Their question is usually should people be prosecuted for criticizing the president. I can remember 3 or 4 times this happened and honestly I want to slap their poser asses. Do not come in here and threat UCMJU retaliatory justice for comments posted here.
This question is a bit close to a threat and I DO NOT think that was the purpose just a simple and awkward. What a state of the country to be in.
A year or so ago someone asked the question of whether you would go against family or friends in some kind of unrest under martial law. We have had people come out of nowhere and then disappear. Their question is usually should people be prosecuted for criticizing the president. I can remember 3 or 4 times this happened and honestly I want to slap their poser asses. Do not come in here and threat UCMJU retaliatory justice for comments posted here.
This question is a bit close to a threat and I DO NOT think that was the purpose just a simple and awkward. What a state of the country to be in.
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LTC (Join to see)
SSgt (Join to see), I'm having trouble following you. I'm not attempting to censor, nor threatening UCMJ. I hope you're not calling me a poser.
The question in the original post is just plain un-American. It isn't even a martial law question. The only reasonable answer is "no." I hope it was a shameless ploy for influence points, but this thread is certain to go down in RallyPoint infamy.
The question in the original post is just plain un-American. It isn't even a martial law question. The only reasonable answer is "no." I hope it was a shameless ploy for influence points, but this thread is certain to go down in RallyPoint infamy.
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No No No. I do not support a military coup. BUT, I do support a reeducation of the voters and Congress in order to teach them the manner in which this country is supposed to work; through a duly elected Congress and President who govern by the Constitution which established our Country. Additionally, I would support the obligation that every candidate for office serve a minimum of two years in a service of their choice and one full tour as a ground soldier in a combat zone.
The SGM has spoke
The SGM has spoke
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SSgt Robert Vaughn
They'll get right on that reeducation thing after buying a few items at 7/11 with their EBT Cards and finish watching a few television shows.
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SGM Thomas Adderley
So what is your idea? Just leave things as they are? Do nothing? You sound like a complainer instead of a leader.
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To Cpt Glenn Keels of Austin Texas and SFC Darrell Ingrams: INSTEAD OF JUST GIVING A DOWN VOTE...why don't you voice your opinion....if you disagree with what I said and others then state why instead of willy nilly down voting so we can understand why you gave us the DOWN VOTE.
After all I covered both sides of why I may possibly follow a coup or what could be done and therefore I wouldn't follow the coup.....
So PLEASE EXPLAIN yourself. WHAT EXACTLY DID YOU NOT LIKE ABOUT WHAT I SAID!
I read all of the comments made...and there were many others with the same thoughts as my self so I would like to know why you choose to vote me DOWN on what I said.... Help me understand. After all everyone is entitled to their opinions and how they feels...and I would understand that you GAVE EACH AND EVERYONE who Said something remotely as I did, but you did not...so what is it about what I said that you don't like so much???
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After all I covered both sides of why I may possibly follow a coup or what could be done and therefore I wouldn't follow the coup.....
So PLEASE EXPLAIN yourself. WHAT EXACTLY DID YOU NOT LIKE ABOUT WHAT I SAID!
I read all of the comments made...and there were many others with the same thoughts as my self so I would like to know why you choose to vote me DOWN on what I said.... Help me understand. After all everyone is entitled to their opinions and how they feels...and I would understand that you GAVE EACH AND EVERYONE who Said something remotely as I did, but you did not...so what is it about what I said that you don't like so much???
adding 1SGT Bill Wayne to this list
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NO- Furthermore - This question should be taken down off of rallypoint immediately. It disgraces our services and veterans. It goes against every single thing our military services (since inception commanded by elected civilians) stands for. There is a reason the joint chiefs don't applause during the state of the Union except when the services are thanked. This principle is one of the few things that has kept this nation alive. We all serve(d) at the pleasure of THE president.. take it down.
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SSgt Alex Robinson
CPT Glenn Keels did you read the link I posted? The reason I posted this is that I was shocked at the number that would support a coup. It says a lot about the state of nation that so many would support such an action.
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MAJ (Join to see)
Really dismayed at the number of folks who want to discourage debate about this subject.
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Like is this for real? Do people know what that means? They would support a war in our front yards in our cities? To me that is terrifying.
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We took an oath first and foremost to the Constitution so if the current government doesn't respect it then it would be time for a coup. It's says all enemies foreign and domestic for a reason.
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Wow....seems like a real loaded question for a group that half the people will be breaking the law if they say yes.
I took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Should POTUS do something that blatantly violates the Constitution (IE suspend elections, seize personal weapons and/or property, or give the order to engage the civilian population) then he becomes the enemy. Then it becomes my moral obligation to defend against that enemy to the best of my ability and within my lane.
Having said that, at that point it's not a coup, it's a defense of the Constitution. A military coup suggests that the military would become the governing body. Defense of the Constitution would be the military restoring the government IAW the Constitution.
Having said that, at that point it's not a coup, it's a defense of the Constitution. A military coup suggests that the military would become the governing body. Defense of the Constitution would be the military restoring the government IAW the Constitution.
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Coup...No. However, If someone ever took over the US government, abolished elections, and appointed themselves King, Emperor, Kaiser, Dear Father, Big Kahuna, Absolute CEO, etc, then it would be the duty of the military to resist and reestablish a constituationally elected government. I guess you would call it a limited Counter Coup similar to what happened in Turkey. Fortunately, that is very unlikely to occur, at least not in my lifetime.
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