Posted on May 4, 2016
Would placing the GAFPB above the Unit Crest be better on the ASU?
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The GAFPB on the ASU looks ridiculous in my opinion being *below* the unit crest; it forces the crest to be near the shoulder. I personally think it would look fine on the upper breast where the unit crest is now; so essentially just swapping places with it. Good idea? Bad idea? Why bother? I personally take pride in looking sharp and to spec, but this reg just blows all that out of the water.
P.S. *No*, I do not bear this award or claim to, but I will be testing for it in July. It was just something bugging me.
P.P.S. Can I actually submit a way to get it changed if this can rack up some support? It would be a tiny revision in 670-1.
P.S. *No*, I do not bear this award or claim to, but I will be testing for it in July. It was just something bugging me.
P.P.S. Can I actually submit a way to get it changed if this can rack up some support? It would be a tiny revision in 670-1.
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Combat Engineer
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The GAFPB is a foreign award. Since it is a foreign award, it will not have a higher precedence than a U.S. military award or decoration. The order of precedence dictates, from highest precedence to lowest precedence, that your branch award/decoration is highest precedence. Next is other U.S. military awards (other branches), next are foreign awards/decorations.
In my humble opinion, if the GAFPB is to be moved, it should be moved to the right pocket and not be on the right upper breast. This would place it below all other U.S. military awards and decorations. If there is already a badge on the pocket, the award would be positioned to the wearers left of that badge, thus indicating lower precedence.
In my humble opinion, if the GAFPB is to be moved, it should be moved to the right pocket and not be on the right upper breast. This would place it below all other U.S. military awards and decorations. If there is already a badge on the pocket, the award would be positioned to the wearers left of that badge, thus indicating lower precedence.
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You are not required to wear this award. Your other option is to nominate a change to the uniform regulation. Good luck.
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First of all, there is no reason to right-justify the GAFPB. The lapel on this cadet's uniform in comparison to his chest is small and the GAFPB will only be partially covered. It's not a picture of your mom. People will still know what it is. Once that is done, the DUI will no longer look as jacked up as is does in this picture since you have three items right justified in a stack.
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COL (Join to see) additionally, Cadet Lang’s marksmanship badge appears to be placed a little too low below below the top of the pocket. The top of his badge is much lower than 1/8” below the top of the pocket.
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I agree Sir. I was wearing it as instructed by my commander at the time because in 2012 there wasn't clear guidance. Please rest assured since AR 670-1 was updated I wear it properly now.
I just googled it again to see if the Pinks and Greens have updated guidance.
The whole reason we took that pic was for a blog post to talk about the lack of clear guidance on foreign awards at the time.
I just googled it again to see if the Pinks and Greens have updated guidance.
The whole reason we took that pic was for a blog post to talk about the lack of clear guidance on foreign awards at the time.
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SPC Weaver, nearly everything in the military is predicated on some form of hierarchy or tradition. The position of the badges are similarly dictated. A foreign badge ranks less than an American insignia. It's similar to looking at your ribbons being in the National Guard. Your state is lower in order of precedence than the national government. Therefore, everything awarded by the Active Army will be placed in higher precedence than that of subordinate states. Ever notice how we don't fly the state flags higher than Old Glory? Same thing. Good luck earning the GAPFB.
-CSM (Ret) Litteral
-CSM (Ret) Litteral
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CSM David Litteral that’s generally true, but how does that logic account for the Schützenschnur badge? See photo.
As it attaches to the shoulder loop on the jacket, it flies higher than everything in our inventory, including the CIB
Just a thought..
As it attaches to the shoulder loop on the jacket, it flies higher than everything in our inventory, including the CIB
Just a thought..
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If you would like to recommend a change to an Army publication, see AR 25-30 Army Publishing Program para 2-4 Requesting changes to a Department of the Army publication, for the procedure.
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SPC (Join to see) - His GAFPB is too high above the MUC...not to mention the jacked looked of the right side adjustment of the GAFPB and the Reg Crest....I can see him adjusting the crest but the GAFPB didn't need to be....and that GAFPB is crooked. His ribbon rack is too low to the seam of the pocket flap.
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They should stop changing the way awards , badges, and other badges that are earned and or are presented to an entire unit or individual are wore, stay with one way.
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