Posted on Jun 4, 2015
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here is a great video video and article about transgender troops im proud to be one of the the 15,500, proud of my service and part of this change. here is a great example of whats going on but what are your thoughts

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/opinion/transgender-at-war-and-in-love.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/opinion/let-transgender-troops-serve-openly.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=opinion-c-col-top-region&region=opinion-c-col-top-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-top-region&_r=1
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MSgt Michael Gaddis
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All of this bullshit diversity garbage defeats the purpose of have a UNIFORM military. What is the point of basic/boot camp...to break down the individual and build them back up to be part of a larger or uniform team.

I could care less what people do regarding their personal life. However, it becomes a problem when leadership tries to force acceptance of lifestyles that go against one's religious beliefs. This in it's self creates division instead of uniformity.

I'm glad I'm retired and don't have to put up with ignorant shit like this anymore. There are way more important things leadership should be focusing on other than gender issues! I would love to see how much of the defense budget is pissed away on this crap. Even if it's $1...that money taken away from training, operations, supples, and equipment that can't be used for the mission!!

If you think you are a different gender than what you are at birth...you shouldn't be allowed in the military. Why...because you have serious mental issues that should be dealt with as a civilian. The military isn't the place to decide or to be used as a social experiment by progressive civilians who've never served a day in their life! It's the place you train to support and defend our nation. Mental health care providers need to be focused on the war fighters...especially those with PTSD...not idividuals with gender issues.

Lastly, if my thoughts and comments offend you..call MEO...oh wait...I'm a retiree!!
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SrA Jason Stiefer
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Crap like this makes me want to leave social media! I'm certainly glad I'm not in "today's" military!
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TSgt James Carson
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Don't permit sex changes on the tax payers dollar. If a person feels they need to change their sex, allow them to pay for it and get on with the primary mission.
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TSgt James Carson
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If someone wants a gender change, they should pay for it themselves, NOT the tax payers. The first and only demand of anyone in the military is they have leadership and the equipment to do their jobs. Sex isn't important in the defence of our country.
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With recent key military members discussing transgenders in the military what are your thoughts?
MSgt David Haupt
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Who cares? Can transgender pick a weapon and fight or do their job? Before I retired I had the privilege to serve with all types. I can say this. I had three Lesbians who at anytime, you could call them and say pack your stuff up we are going to X Y and Z. Their response was "roger that" I think the media is taking this way out of proportion. I never once had any problems with any who served. This was even before the "Don't ask, don't tell" repeal. We knew who was gay or straight and you know what they did their job just like anyone else. Why is this a discussion anyways? We all signed on the dotted line to protect and serve. No one held a gun to our heads and was told to sign. We have bigger fish to fry with the retirement changes, possibility of losing certain CAS aircraft, and ISS.
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SSgt Aerospace Maintenance
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I feel like when start accommodating everyone for every small issue or difference, we start loosing the structure and unity in the military. I have no problem with who you are outside of work, but when ur at work you are going to adhere to the standards just like everyone else. If you are a male then u adhere to the standards the military sets aside for males. If you are female then u will do the same. There can not be a grey area in the military. I think that everyone has the right to be who they feel like they should be, but at the same time the military is not the place for individuals. That's why we all have the same uniform (per branch), everyone had to act the same, everyone follows the same rules. The military is all about equality and equal opportunity, and that is exactly how it's supposed to be, but we need to take a step back and ask ourselves if we should accommodate the less than 1% to affect the majority. This, just like the repeal of "don't ask, don't tell" is a sensitive issue. It will be interested to see how this pans out.
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Capt Al Parker
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BARF
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Capt Al Parker
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Hey at least I am honest, what's your excuse Sgt.?
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MSgt Jim Wolverton
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Now, while I have zero issue with anyone serving, we have FAR too many more important problems in the military that need to be fixed first before addressing this.
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MSgt Jim Wolverton
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I see some issues/questions in all of this, the first is: are there any medical issues that come with gender reassignment that could make someone inelligible for military service? If the military allows TG service members in, is the military now responsible for that person's medical care as a result of a procedure performed prior to entering service? Also, what if a current service member decides that they are TG, will the military be forced to foot the bill for gender reassignment surgery?
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PO1 Kerry French
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NO. We have to have standards. Not everyone does or should qualify for military service.
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Lt Col Timothy Parker, DBA
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Adm. Mullen, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs at the time, testified to Congress about homosexuals serving in the military (the topic was the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell). I'
m quoting from Robert Gates' book Duty (pg. 435):

"Mr. Chairman, speaking for myself and myself only, it is my personal belief that allowing homosexuals to serve openly would be the right thing to do. No matter how I look at the issue, I cannot escape being troubled by the fact that we have in place a policy which forces young men and women to lie about who they are in order to defend their fellow citizens. For me, it comes down to integrity, theirs as individuals and ours as an institution."

What makes transgender different? Just because it may not be well understood by most of us doesn't make it wrong, or make transgenders unfit for duty. We crossed similar bridges in the past (race and gender come to mind) and made corrections. Just my humble opinion.
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Lt Col Timothy Parker, DBA

Sir,

in my opinion I agree the story has been the same but the topic has changed. the military has seen this before from women, segregation, DADT Repel, etc. as airforce we are about 300,000 strong and we are doing more with less people as im sure you are aware of. with the USAF being about 300,000 and military members already make about or less then 1% of the US population we cant afford to limit our workforce for out of date or regulations that make no sense at all anyone that is willing and able to serve should without limitation
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Lt Col Timothy Parker, DBA
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I'm in agreement with you on the issue, although I don't think its a matter of affording to limit the workforce. I think its a matter of ethics as Adm. Mullen said. If it were limited to only 3, its would still be an ethical issue.
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Lt Col Timothy Parker, DBA
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As a side topic, I see you are at Lakenheath AB UK, I was stationed there as well when they had FB-111's. I hope its still fun there.
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Lt Col Timothy Parker, DBA

yes sir still having a blast :)
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