Posted on Sep 5, 2014
Why is it that more and more everyday, I seem to find more soldiers who seem to be more of a pay grade than an actually soldier?
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Why is it that more and more everyday, I seem to find more soldiers who seem to be more of a pay grade than an actually soldier.
Example I have a soldier from another section going to the promo board next month, and I jokingly said that being an NCO is a headache (which at times it is, but I love my stripes), and his response was the pay isn't and neither is the BAH.
I was shocked, when I thought about getting promoted the furthest thing on my mind was the "awesome pay jump." But I find that there are NCOs, Officers, and Junior Enlisted who care more about their pay then they do about everything that goes along with the duty and honor of being a soldier.
Example I have a soldier from another section going to the promo board next month, and I jokingly said that being an NCO is a headache (which at times it is, but I love my stripes), and his response was the pay isn't and neither is the BAH.
I was shocked, when I thought about getting promoted the furthest thing on my mind was the "awesome pay jump." But I find that there are NCOs, Officers, and Junior Enlisted who care more about their pay then they do about everything that goes along with the duty and honor of being a soldier.
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You have E-5s, you have SGTs, and you have NCOs.
E-5s are in it for the pay.
SGTs are in it for the power.
NCOs are in it for the right reasons.
I used E-5/SGT as an example. The same applies to the other grades as well.
E-5s are in it for the pay.
SGTs are in it for the power.
NCOs are in it for the right reasons.
I used E-5/SGT as an example. The same applies to the other grades as well.
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TSgt David Case
Exactly! NCO's lead and mentor!!!
Those who do it well have EARNED the respect that comes with the rank and authority they hold. True leaders/NCO's are not in it for for the power or the money. They're there to help lead/show the way for the future NCO's/leaders. The good NCO leads and mentors everyone in their chain the best way they know how to get the job done and get it done right.
Those who do it well have EARNED the respect that comes with the rank and authority they hold. True leaders/NCO's are not in it for for the power or the money. They're there to help lead/show the way for the future NCO's/leaders. The good NCO leads and mentors everyone in their chain the best way they know how to get the job done and get it done right.
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I've seen AC soldiers with families having to apply for welfare and food stamps to make ends meet. So I can see where a soldier could have that view because to them that pay makes a difference. I'm not saying it's 100% right because those stripes come with increased responsibility that the SM has to accept and work hard at. In some cases, Yes that may be the truth that SMs can't see beyond the Benjamins, but, like I said, I've seen the other side too.
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SFC(P) (Join to see)
I agree sir, but it's not like any of us rose our right hand thinking that we hit pay dirt. I knew full and well that joining the Army was not something to do because the pay was great. I feel as though soldiers today though, don't know the difference between an E-5, a Sergeant, and an NCO, and the same with all of the other ranks such as an O-4, a Major, and an Officer. They see them as all encompassing, and that all that matters is that paycheck, which as we all know is not the case. I just don't get it.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
I think you make a great point SFC(P) (Join to see). I've always been a HQ puke, so I had E1-E5s who were immersed around rank E-7-9 and O4s on up to O7. They got it because they saw it all the time. The average line unit enlisted soldier generally doesn't see beyond 1 E-8 and an O-4. They may not exposure beyond a Bn staff to see the bigger picture. My issue was trying to get my soldiers into line units and on their own as a company commo NCO. Whole different level of responsibility, self reliance and "growing" that every soldier needs to succeed.
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In the Guard, we don't really see that as much. The jump between pay-grades may pay half the electric bill for the month, if that.
I think, possibly, this focus on money is something that the military has brought on itself.
"Want money for college? Join today!"
"If you go into this MOS, you get a bonus."
"If you re-enlist, you get a bonus".
We've become so focused on the financial benefits, we've lost sight of what "duty" and "honor" means. Which does bring up a kind of disturbing question: If these kids are enlisting solely because of the money, do these military concepts even matter to them?
Good question.
I think, possibly, this focus on money is something that the military has brought on itself.
"Want money for college? Join today!"
"If you go into this MOS, you get a bonus."
"If you re-enlist, you get a bonus".
We've become so focused on the financial benefits, we've lost sight of what "duty" and "honor" means. Which does bring up a kind of disturbing question: If these kids are enlisting solely because of the money, do these military concepts even matter to them?
Good question.
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