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SrA Eric Olsen
Politics also started WW I. Religion and Politics both were involved in WW II. Either one can be deadly to people, combined they are even more dangerous.
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most religious wars were started for political reasons. Go to war in crusades? they wanted land etc
more times then not religion is a shield for a political reason
more times then not religion is a shield for a political reason
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Both are slippery topics, although I personally believe that religion often carries more emotion, which passionate arguments generally follow... religion takes the prize.
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CMSgt James Nolan
I would disagree LT, religious differences tend to cause fanaticism. Entire populations don't usually go berserk over political parties, but they will take ideological stances that are often insurmountable.
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PO2 David Reilly
In many cases you can actually see where politics becomes a religion, or in the reverse, religion becomes politics. Politics, at the most basic may be less likely to erupt into mass violence, but that also has to do with where you are in the world. The riots in Egypt and the civil war in Syria are based more in politics than in religion, however they do have an over-splatter that has a religious undercurrent. The unadulterated hate between the Israelis and the Palestinians is as much political and Religious. Iran, a theocracy, cannot be looked at if you don't observe both the politics and religion. ISIS or ISOL or The Islamic State is at the core a religious movement with political aspirations. In many cases around the world you cannot separate the two. I believe that where they co-mingle into one thing you get the worst possible scenarios, because you are not just dealing with political or religious fanatics, but with both, encapsulated into one horribly vicious creature. Another example would be the Taliban. That "political" group's destruction of religious sites and laws governing society were all based in religion.
When you have simple politics, diplomacy is possible. When you have simple religion, you can find places where there is common ground. When you have both of them together, there is no "middle ground" that can be arrived at.
The Founding Fathers weren't too keen on political parties, or at least a small number of really powerful political parties. What we have today with our "two party system" would likely be seen as an abomination to the majority of the founding fathers. What we have now are two "Empires" that share power back and forth every eight years or so. Both of the parties have become so powerful that they can essentially overlook any other small parties that are out there. Whether you are left leaning or right leaning, you are essentially left with one choice if you actually want to have "your guy/gal" elected. Certainly, you can vote for any other party you want, but we all know that we are going to end up with Democrats or Republicans winning the seats. Only once in a blue moon (Jesse Ventura in Minnesota as an example) do you have someone who is outside of those two parties win a seat in any race. The two party system disenfranchises many more prospective voters than any requirement for voter ID ever would. How many people decide not to vote, because the two candidates that have a chance to win do not come close to meeting their needs or representing their beliefs? Why do we have a sub 50% voter turn out for all major elections? It isn't just because people can't vote, it is also because they don't see the purpose in voting when there is no chance of the person they prefer, ever getting elected. Our two party system is corrupt in it's funding, in it's willingness to include lesser parties in debates and other events and in the way the campaigns are run. They have both become political juggernauts, running rampant over any idea that is outside their list of accepted platform principles. Until that two party system goes away and we have more choices that have an equal chance in elections we will continue to see voter turnouts that are lower than those in the countries we recently "liberated". Iraq, a country where you actually had to worry about if you might live or die if you went to the polls, had an over 60% turnout. And we, Americans who live in a free and relatively safe country, don't go to vote. Not because it is dangerous, but because it is inconvenient. Not because we fear for our lives, but because there is nobody on the ballot that represents our feelings and needs.
Religion, in this country, is about equal with politics though for different reason. Religion has emotion and politics has ennui and lethargy. If you put the emotion of religion and the lethargy of politics on a scale in this country, I think they would come to a pretty even balance.
When you have simple politics, diplomacy is possible. When you have simple religion, you can find places where there is common ground. When you have both of them together, there is no "middle ground" that can be arrived at.
The Founding Fathers weren't too keen on political parties, or at least a small number of really powerful political parties. What we have today with our "two party system" would likely be seen as an abomination to the majority of the founding fathers. What we have now are two "Empires" that share power back and forth every eight years or so. Both of the parties have become so powerful that they can essentially overlook any other small parties that are out there. Whether you are left leaning or right leaning, you are essentially left with one choice if you actually want to have "your guy/gal" elected. Certainly, you can vote for any other party you want, but we all know that we are going to end up with Democrats or Republicans winning the seats. Only once in a blue moon (Jesse Ventura in Minnesota as an example) do you have someone who is outside of those two parties win a seat in any race. The two party system disenfranchises many more prospective voters than any requirement for voter ID ever would. How many people decide not to vote, because the two candidates that have a chance to win do not come close to meeting their needs or representing their beliefs? Why do we have a sub 50% voter turn out for all major elections? It isn't just because people can't vote, it is also because they don't see the purpose in voting when there is no chance of the person they prefer, ever getting elected. Our two party system is corrupt in it's funding, in it's willingness to include lesser parties in debates and other events and in the way the campaigns are run. They have both become political juggernauts, running rampant over any idea that is outside their list of accepted platform principles. Until that two party system goes away and we have more choices that have an equal chance in elections we will continue to see voter turnouts that are lower than those in the countries we recently "liberated". Iraq, a country where you actually had to worry about if you might live or die if you went to the polls, had an over 60% turnout. And we, Americans who live in a free and relatively safe country, don't go to vote. Not because it is dangerous, but because it is inconvenient. Not because we fear for our lives, but because there is nobody on the ballot that represents our feelings and needs.
Religion, in this country, is about equal with politics though for different reason. Religion has emotion and politics has ennui and lethargy. If you put the emotion of religion and the lethargy of politics on a scale in this country, I think they would come to a pretty even balance.
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