Posted on May 25, 2015
When will we realize victory in the War on Terror?
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How and when will we realize the point of victory in the War on Terror? Will it be lasting? What will it look like? Is it possible? Is it likely? What will be the final cost of victory over terror?
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Successful insurgencies have peer sized forces. We need to kill most of them. How stable the country will be depends on their military, people, and government.
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All the wars that we are in right now are not wars to help the collective, that are wars to oppress the collective. And then they set us against each other. The rich against the poor, the black vs white, the people who belive they have a right to put what they want to in their own body vs the people who think they have the right to tell people what they can put in their body the American vs the terrorist etc.. All it is, is a game to the government to let sheepole vote and pass and elect people that have already been selected against the true will of the people. Just look at all these wars, who are the people who are responsible for starting them? The federal government. If you can't tell by now I don't trust the government. From nsa spying to the NDAA to forced unaffordable non health care to department of homeland insecurity. Just the thought that homeland security is "nessacery", get under my skin. The 2nd amendment is the original homeland security. This is the civilian national force that is just as strong just as well funded that obama was talking about. In the words of Benjiman Franklin "those who give up liberty for security deserve neither and lose both"
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As general as the question is, probably never. There always have been, and probably always will be, groups that use terror tactics to further whatever their political ends may be. IRA terror attacks, Islamist terror attacks, drug cartel terror attacks. Classic "whack a mole" - while we are fighting one, another one pops up somewhere else. With a different ideology, different reasons, similar tactics.
Perhaps if we ever grow a spine, and make a national policy decision to flat out eradicate any group that uses terror as a weapon against the USA.
Perhaps if we ever grow a spine, and make a national policy decision to flat out eradicate any group that uses terror as a weapon against the USA.
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When liberalism is destroyed.. not one moment before. Victory is impossible otherwise. Victory in any war is impossible as long as liberalism holds sway. Even if you manage to overcome it the next one that comes along will undo it.
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LTC Yinon Weiss
FDR was one of the most liberal Presidents in US history, but many would argue that he did a pretty good job on leading the US in WWII. I personally think that many of his liberal domestic policies have done incredible damage to this country, but I don't think that because he was a liberal that he could not wage effective war.
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SSG Kevin McCulley
It is liberal domestic action, like objecting to the surge entirely for political reasons, that make winning wars impossible. Hillary and Obama admitted this in the presence of Robert Gates. They put themselves before the nation every time. I also postulate that the liberals of today are not the liberals of yore. Just as the liberals of yore aren't liberals of the classical Jeffersonian type.
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LTC Yinon Weiss
Richard Nixon was hardly a liberal, yet he ran on a platform of ending the Vietnam War at almost any cost, and it was his actions which created the conditions for the South Vietnamese to ultimately be over-run by the North... in perhaps the biggest military disaster this nation has ever seen.
It sounds to me like you just don't like some of the liberals from today, which is understandable. But I think making extreme statements like "victory in any war is impossible..." is a bit extreme, when there have been plenty of liberals in history who have won wars and plenty of conservatives who have lost them. I say this as somebody who is conservative myself. Dividing our country against ourselves is not in our best interest.
It sounds to me like you just don't like some of the liberals from today, which is understandable. But I think making extreme statements like "victory in any war is impossible..." is a bit extreme, when there have been plenty of liberals in history who have won wars and plenty of conservatives who have lost them. I say this as somebody who is conservative myself. Dividing our country against ourselves is not in our best interest.
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SSG Kevin McCulley
All of the dividing I see is being done by identity politics of the left. Nixon also emasculated the space program and had some very interesting notions on presidential authority similar to the current incumbent. I hardly consider him a shining example of conservatism.
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Is this a war we can actually score a final victory, or a series of small victories?
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