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While there are certain MOS that are easily . that are identifiable as combat. There are few that could be debated as more support. Do you feel MOSs like 13J,13R or many 14 series should be in the combat brach? And why? This post isn't meant to attack any one, but rather have a discussion.
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This has been reviewed and redone a few times throughout. The latest is locked. However, none of that is to say that other MOS/organizations do not have direct contact with the enemy, however that is viewed as ancillary-all MOS should train to the basics prior to deployment. The bottom line is that for planners at Army level to develop battle plans they place each organization within there assigned roles. That is also not to say that subordinate commanders cannot redesign are a unit to deploy as an infantry Battalion for example (coming from Artillery). I believe that having been the case in a unit that the current SMA was a CSM for.
Bottom line is that units in support of FLT, Artillery, Combat Engineers, ADA are not and will not be designated combat Arms as they support indirectly, while on occassion (sometimes often) get indirectly into the fight. All Soldiers in any battle field we have fought on I. Many years were and are subject to direct contact, but generally not at a unit level. It is very rare that support and service support will engage as a unit in the direct fight. I think this became a bit of a ramble. Not my intent.
Bottom line is that units in support of FLT, Artillery, Combat Engineers, ADA are not and will not be designated combat Arms as they support indirectly, while on occassion (sometimes often) get indirectly into the fight. All Soldiers in any battle field we have fought on I. Many years were and are subject to direct contact, but generally not at a unit level. It is very rare that support and service support will engage as a unit in the direct fight. I think this became a bit of a ramble. Not my intent.
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
As a one time 14A SHORAD Redeye Section leader, we were organic to Infantry BNs in the CSC company. Whatever is the replacement for Nike Herc/Zeus in NORAD in the ZI probably not a combat arm. Whatever passes for HAWK and the gatling system that replaced Duster probably combat arms since they are deployed with Infantry BDEs and/or Divisions.
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
I agree 100 percent, 13F is much the same. I stated that there are many who do, just not a unit sized organization. MAJ Ronnie Reams
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Is your job to kill the enemy? Yes? Welcome to Combat Arms. Is it to help others kill the enemy by either supporting them (maintenance, logistics, personnel, etc.) or by reducing enemy capability (intel, engineer, electronic attack, etc.)? Welcome to support / service support.
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