Posted on Sep 27, 2013
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SCPO David Lockwood
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While the military goes through this downsizing they need to draw their attention to the qualified and knowledgeable people.&nbsp; It seems that every time the military downsizes they tend to lose the qualified and knowledgeable people and end up with those who require more training thus costing the military more $$$.&nbsp; Why not take those $$$ and spend them on those individuals that you want to keep in the form of incentives?<br>
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LTC Executive Officer To Afc A Co S G 3/5/7
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Don't offer blanket early retirement or early out options.  We cannot afford to bleed out our most talented NCOs and Officers like we did after Desert Storm.  Carefully consider experience and education before letting folks go.  Our Army needs to retain experienced and quality Officers and NCOs to lead and train our next generation.
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First, the Army absolutely needs to drastically diminish its reliance on contractors.  How can we justify spending costs when we are hiring civilians to do the jobs of military personnel that are then no longer doing their jobs.  And, to top it off, they get paid MORE to do it!!!

 

Next, take a good, long look at the top!  There are too many toxic leaders, and people that have been able to stay under the radar for far too long.  It's easy to cut a fat private or two, but for real change to happen you need to surgically cut out the cancer that is toxic leadership.

 

Finally, instead of falling back in to a garrison mindset the Army needs to continue training like we are going to war at any minute.  A top athlete doesn't just let themselves get fat in the off-season; they continue to train and get better for when the next season rolls around.  We need to streamline and maintain the fighting force with better soldiers while cutting the "players" that aren't going to be ready for "game time".

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LTC Senior Human Resources Officer
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Agreed.  There is an overuse of contractors where should only be used for specialized short term projects where a member of the military or GS civilian can not serve to do the same function.  

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Actionable analysis by verified performance review (well thought AARs or the like) not widgets, trackers and database reliant systems (these cost ill spent money to create and maintain) . What do I mean? Let the command and unit leadership rate their units/Soldiers performance based on old school actual performance. Do not rely on or let bureaucrats define it by how many check the block by completing surveys, needlessly lengthy online training modules, videos and excessively repetitive mandatory training at the drop of a dime for every time an issue arises (Soldiers do something heinously wrong, expedite getting rid of them and their ability to polute the waters; we all truly know what is right and wrong). Do not let up on requesting the appropriate assetts to train and be mission ready.

 

I do to some degree support having DoD civilian employees and minimum contractors. Military spending has been historically the largest government spending piece of the pie. Employing these folks is good for the economy and unemployment rates. However, all those in uniform see daily the waste of time and funds that occurs at the hands of some civilians and contractors. Troops do it as well but we can act upon this fairly reasonably. There are too many loopholes that stagnate or delay the process to effectively deal with these people (union rules and contract policies). Give units and leaders more well paid, trained, educated and enthusiastic (because they see/feel their benefits and are not intimidated to take responsibility for hard work) Soldiers who can and should do these jobs.

 

In response to retired 1SG Darrell Davis' comment about the Military Industrial Complex, you are spot on! We know it, but I think there has to be more done to insure the tax payers know it along with our politicians do something to change it. I'm sure most Americans would be appalled at the amount of money that seems to go wasted on certain programs and agendas while support for and the amount of troops is getting cut more and more daily.

 

Most analysts would agree downsizing rarely has the desired outcomes. One usually reduces its production force or in our case fighting strength, while not having effectively addressed the root causes of financial imbalance... Oversight or neglectful budget spending by the government as a whole in every department with little to nothing done to reprimand those responsible or capture the opportunities to keep it from happening again and again. When was the last time you saw a politician relieved, fined or imprisoned for making a choice that cost millions of dollars or peoples' lives that created a "loss of confidence"?

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MAJ Morgan Smiley
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A rather broad question. There is much DoD should do. My recommendations are as follows:
- The Army ought to downsize to 400,000 to 350,000 (maybe less). Our strategy no longer calls for an Army sized to fight two wars simultaneously. Given this, why have an Army sized for this?
- Put the majority of our armored force in the ARNG.
- Reconfigure 4-5 BCTs into advisor brigades (500-600 each) manned with senior leaders capable of training and assisting others to take care of their own problems (advisory missions are now a GPF core function). This ought to mitigate the need to deploy large US units.
- Reduce the USMC. Our laws call for 3x Marine divisions and 3x Air Wings. Keep two of each on active status and fully manned, the other two (1x Div, 1x Air Wing) will consist of reserve units and only active duty headquarters.
- Get rid of the Navy SEALs and give that mission to the USMC. Weren't the Marines the original naval special operations force?
- Reconfigure the USAF into the US Space Force and give all tactical air missions/ CAS to the Army (A-10 needs to go the Army). US Space Force keeps all strategic air and leads all Cyber-warfare efforts.
- Look at replacing most/ all of our multi-billion dollar combat aircraft with less expensive armed UAVs. Drones!!
- Replace a few of our big carriers with amphibious assault ships reconfigured to carry armed UAVs. Smaller ships, smaller crews, same kill capability. I think the Navy is looking to use some converted cargo ships as VTOL carriers too.....nice.
- Prioritize efforts to develop and field drones.....UAVs and ground combat robots. They're expendable, don't need rest, don't need retirement/ medical benefits, more resilient, etc.

Just my two cents.
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It takes training to be proficient at fighting tanks.  It takes boots on the ground to defeat ground forces.  The active armor force capability and training in the modern force is a shadow of the proficiency of the 90s.  I would hate to see what it'd be with a weekend a month training period. This isn't world war two these Abrams are techno marvels. The federal government can't afford to run tanks, states definitely couldn't afford it.  I'll buy the downsizing, I think 400,000 is more than reasonable. 
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SFC Michael Boulanger
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We should be getting Soldiers to all of the schools that they need in order to stay in the positions that they are in now i.e. Battle Staff NCO, NCOES, ASI and SQI schools.
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SFC Boulanger, 

What are some of the solutions or ideas that you have for attempting to get the appropriate schools and training under tight budget constraints. 

For example, for my Company, we are only allocated ONE WLC seat for the FY. At this rate, we would never have enough WLC qualified E-5's to sustain true development and growth. Given, I am hoping that we gain more slots, but if it stands...we may see a tremendous vacuum for qualifications. 

Our solution has been to establish a OML to establish who gets sent. However, I feel as though there must be a better answer to operating within these constraints. 

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SPC Chester Inman
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What should be done is keep the soldiers who are will to stay and train them to be leaders instead of holding them back. For example I was a SPC (P) and I never got the chance to go to PLDC. Look to the young ones and train them so they want to stay in
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MAJ Chief, Armed Services Blood Bank Center   Pacific Northwest
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Because downsizing has a second and third order effect on civilians, we must make sure the support will continue to be there for our continuity partners.  This may seem simple but believe me; your civilian support can make or break you, especially when they do not see commitment to their needs from our leadership.  This applies to both the family and professional settings.  After all, it is our civilians who provide that critical historical knowledge and operational continuity.



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As a mid-career NCO (15yrs) I am finding myself increasingly frustrated with the way the Army is conducting business at the Soldier/Leader level. Gone are the days when an NCO could actually mentor and counsel his/her Soldiers without fear of some sort of reprisal, should the Soldier disagree. Respect is now a catch word, and CYA is the norm. All Soldiers deserve to be treated with dignity and respect, but the rank structure should stand for something more than a pay chart. 

 

During the "Draw Down" or "Right-sizing", the focus should be on retaining only the highest quality individuals, using the "Total Soldier" concept. What I have witnessed is a trend of targeting only those Soldiers who do not meet published standards for PT and Weight Control. The reality is that there are far more sub-standard Soldiers who are physically fit, but have questionable morals and ideals. When I can stand in the chow hall line and listen to young Soldiers brag about being arrested by civilian authorities and going to jail, I can't help to wonder where all this talk about "professionalism" went. Clean out the ranks by asking those who who have chronic discipline issues to leave first, revamp the screening process for new recruits (both enlisted and commissioned), and act swiftly when a morals issue manifests itself.

 

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I think holding people accountable is the biggest thing anybody can do right now. I went through ALC recently and became immediately aware there are some SSGs that shouldn't be a SSG. They are put into a position where they will do little to mess anything important up and do great things in that position. They never learn the rest of their job. Some people would say that isn't their fault, but it is. We are all given our MOS and are expected to learn everything that comes with that job. So these SSGs that are expected to bring something to the table while at ALC end up relying entirely on the other SSGs in the classes and are able to pass without having to left a finger. I think the NCO Academies are one place this shouldn't be allowed to slide. These are professional development schools where our best and brightest should be going to learn and improve. It all comes down to holding people accountable. 
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