Posted on Jan 11, 2023
What is your opinion of Biden taking classified documents after he left the Vice-Presidency?
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As of 1/10/23, we don’t have the complete story on the nature and classification of the documents, nor do we know the number of documents. Apparently, they were discovered in November and turned over immediately. How much difference does that make between the actions of him and Trump? Legally, the statute of limitations has passed, so what repercussions could Biden face, if any?
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LTC Eugene Chu Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth SFC Kelly Fuerhoff Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P PO1 Jeff Chandler PO1 Jeff Chandler SFC Kathy Pepper
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Why is it classified? Cause i don't need to know... it's not going to help me or my daily tasks.... now that Biden has been down to be reckless, that's a whole nother story
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Investigation still needs to be done. Biden has NOT claimed declassification by thinking about it and his lawyers turned them over to the National Archives after discovery.
https://www.politicususa.com/2023/01/09/rachel-maddow-explains-why-the-biden-classified-documents-are-a-dud.html
https://www.politicususa.com/2023/01/09/rachel-maddow-explains-why-the-biden-classified-documents-are-a-dud.html
Rachel Maddow Explains Why The Biden Classified Documents Are A Dud
Rachel Maddow contrasted how Trump each handled the news of classified documents in their offices to show why the Biden story is nothing.
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SFC Kathy Pepper
LTC Eugene Chu
Thank you for posting this video. I am trying to figure out for myself what are the similarities and what are the differences between to two circumstances.
Thank you for posting this video. I am trying to figure out for myself what are the similarities and what are the differences between to two circumstances.
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When I worked for a govt contractor, govt people interviewed us every year about our handling of classified info. They asked us to rat out any colleagues that might have problems in their lives that could make them vulnerable to foreign influence, anyone acting suspicious regarding documents. I have no doubt that I would have gone to prison if I mishandled stuff. But obviously there are different rules for special people.
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In my opinion, the problem is not which president or vice-president took home classified documents and didn't return one for for for whatever reason - probably all have at one time or another.
The problem lies in how classified documents are accounted for. It appears that even a simple library book has more accountability than a classified document.
If one checks out a library book, there is a system in place that keeps track of who checked out which book - by title - on which date, and whether that book was returned. There is also a process in place that will be activated if the book is not returned.
Evidently there is no such system at the federal level for classified documents. It is apparently just assumed that anyone authorized to have access to a classified document is responsible enough to return the document without having to be reminded to do so.
Therefore, until an accountability system for classified documents is put into place AND enforced, the problem will continue.
No elected official, including those who occupy the Oval Office are above the law and there must be a system in place to hold them accountable. However, this also means that whoever is responsible for that system much have the courage to say to whomever something similar to: Document title is past due and must be returned to or it must once again be checked out. OR Sir (Madame) you term as (name of position) has ended and the following document(s) must be returned to this office by (given date). If they are not returned by the date stated above the following action will be taken: (Nature of action.)
The problem lies in how classified documents are accounted for. It appears that even a simple library book has more accountability than a classified document.
If one checks out a library book, there is a system in place that keeps track of who checked out which book - by title - on which date, and whether that book was returned. There is also a process in place that will be activated if the book is not returned.
Evidently there is no such system at the federal level for classified documents. It is apparently just assumed that anyone authorized to have access to a classified document is responsible enough to return the document without having to be reminded to do so.
Therefore, until an accountability system for classified documents is put into place AND enforced, the problem will continue.
No elected official, including those who occupy the Oval Office are above the law and there must be a system in place to hold them accountable. However, this also means that whoever is responsible for that system much have the courage to say to whomever something similar to: Document title is past due and must be returned to or it must once again be checked out. OR Sir (Madame) you term as (name of position) has ended and the following document(s) must be returned to this office by (given date). If they are not returned by the date stated above the following action will be taken: (Nature of action.)
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SFC Kathy Pepper
SSG Don Smith
You came up with a good method to handle classified documents similar to a library book. Unfortunately, it makes too much sense therefore will never be implemented. It bothers me that too many civilians don’t have any idea about the importance of securing classified documents properly.
You came up with a good method to handle classified documents similar to a library book. Unfortunately, it makes too much sense therefore will never be implemented. It bothers me that too many civilians don’t have any idea about the importance of securing classified documents properly.
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I would be willing to bet there are service members in the brig/prison fro mishandling documents as we speak. They are being held accountable for their actions, but if they are paying attention they will soon have the grounds to have their convictions turned over. The current staff of GOs seem to be perfectly willing to conform to the new standard dictated by the lar left minority.
This is the slippery slope we are on. We have been teaching the next generation that they will not be held accountable for anything. Inclusion and equity have replaced trying harder to be the best at something. When schools withhold merit awards that would help with college admissions and scholarships to keep the scales balanced between demographics it teaches a very wrong message. The problem is that is being normalized by the media. Most networks refuse to tell these stories because doing so would put them at risk of being cancelled.
My fellow Americans, we are fucked. It's only a matter of time before the police, the military and any form of structure are removed from our society.
This is the slippery slope we are on. We have been teaching the next generation that they will not be held accountable for anything. Inclusion and equity have replaced trying harder to be the best at something. When schools withhold merit awards that would help with college admissions and scholarships to keep the scales balanced between demographics it teaches a very wrong message. The problem is that is being normalized by the media. Most networks refuse to tell these stories because doing so would put them at risk of being cancelled.
My fellow Americans, we are fucked. It's only a matter of time before the police, the military and any form of structure are removed from our society.
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All one has to ask if any of us were in the same situation what would happen to us . We all know the answer to that question . In the old days while in the Army there was a saying "Rank has it's prevledge " .
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We have enough information to know the documents where there and the documents should not have been there. The problem is bigger than Biden and his handling of classified materials. I remember several instances in the past where politicians were given access to classified information and than leaked them and later complained because information was being denied them. I think when it comes to lack of security and leaks one of our weakest links are elected officials.
Biden has earned and Deserves all the heat he is getting on this issue. Presidents and Vice-Presidents may need to see classified materials but there is no need to hoard or lose track of them.
I hope Biden learns from this mistake and along with our legislators makes constructive moves to stop this threat to our country.
Biden has earned and Deserves all the heat he is getting on this issue. Presidents and Vice-Presidents may need to see classified materials but there is no need to hoard or lose track of them.
I hope Biden learns from this mistake and along with our legislators makes constructive moves to stop this threat to our country.
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Weeell. My question is how many other Presidents did the same thing? How about Bush, Clinton, and Obama? Steven Holt's answer is on point. My feelings are: [1] Nothing will be done to punish the violators. [2] It is political ammo only. [3] If I had done it, I would have any apartment in Leavenworth, KS. [4] However, the violators can watch the ocean in Delaware or play golf in Florida.
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This is awake call, how many more government officials and employees are going unchecked? Is anyone responsible for tracking documents?
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