Posted on Jan 18, 2015
What is the ONE thing EVERY young Officer must know?
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There's been quite a few discussions about how clueless young Lieutenants (and Ensigns) are when they hit the Operating Forces (and we often are). Here it is: your chance to publicly and permanently record the one topic you think is the most critical for us to know when we step in at your unit. With some luck, maybe those young officers will read it here and have the epiphany they need privately and everyone will be better off for it.
So hit it: let all the experience of the RP community be brought to bear: immediately after commissioning what's the ONE thing every O-1 must know ?
(Just so no one gets hurt feelings, lets say you're telling this guy here-but before his promotion and deployment in the photo-I cant find any pics from commissioning.)
So hit it: let all the experience of the RP community be brought to bear: immediately after commissioning what's the ONE thing every O-1 must know ?
(Just so no one gets hurt feelings, lets say you're telling this guy here-but before his promotion and deployment in the photo-I cant find any pics from commissioning.)
Edited 10 y ago
Posted 10 y ago
Responses: 187
Here's mine:
As you head to The Basic School and your follow-on MOS school, and even after you graduate you MUST study as hard as you can. If you have family you need to spend time with them and you need a few moments for yourself now and again, and you have to sleep. But don't waste a second, because you are now spending borrowed time. Don't go out boozing and being stupid, don't waste time doing things you don't need to do. There are 42 Marines out there in a platoon somewhere waiting for you to show up. And you're showing up without experience. All you have to offer is knowledge. That knowledge is going to get combined with the experience of your NCOs and will hopefully make wisdom. But it is incumbent on you to glean every fact, figure, training technique, procedure and doctrine from the trove of information available to you. Every weekend when not in the field or PTing or running errands be reading or studying. This time is not yours, it is your Marines'. Until your first taste of combat you are living on borrowed time. Heaven forbid the Marines in combat with you on that day have to pay that debt for you.
Because you will carry that for the rest of your life.
So arm yourself now, reduce the odds of that even happening, and if it does, know that you did everything you could to prepare before the moment arrived.
As you head to The Basic School and your follow-on MOS school, and even after you graduate you MUST study as hard as you can. If you have family you need to spend time with them and you need a few moments for yourself now and again, and you have to sleep. But don't waste a second, because you are now spending borrowed time. Don't go out boozing and being stupid, don't waste time doing things you don't need to do. There are 42 Marines out there in a platoon somewhere waiting for you to show up. And you're showing up without experience. All you have to offer is knowledge. That knowledge is going to get combined with the experience of your NCOs and will hopefully make wisdom. But it is incumbent on you to glean every fact, figure, training technique, procedure and doctrine from the trove of information available to you. Every weekend when not in the field or PTing or running errands be reading or studying. This time is not yours, it is your Marines'. Until your first taste of combat you are living on borrowed time. Heaven forbid the Marines in combat with you on that day have to pay that debt for you.
Because you will carry that for the rest of your life.
So arm yourself now, reduce the odds of that even happening, and if it does, know that you did everything you could to prepare before the moment arrived.
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CPT George Conrad, II
First thing I did as an Artillery Officer after my first formation was to pull my Fire Direction Center NCOs at the Platoon level over away from the unit and asked them how long they had been in the Army and the Field Artillery. I then told them they had 30 days to teach me what they had learned in their combined 19 years and that school starts now. That being said, I was blessed to have been enlisted and went through OCS. I also kept a watch full eye open and always sought guidance from the First Sergeant. My commander was responsible for my professional development on the tactical and technical side. Leadership in inherent because you have the skills and desire, but must always seek the good senior NCOs for guidance. If you have to go and find an NCO away from the troops you have a very big problem. NCOs that are watching soldiers are picking their successors. Theses are the NCOs that care and want to develop and would love more than anything a Junior Officer to teach and train. Observe, read and be very proficient and never be arrogant or condescending towards your NCOs. If you have to admonish do it in private after you have a conference with the 1SG and CDR. Good NCOs will guide you and mentor you. One day your Platoon Sergeant just might be your CSM or 1SG. Use you powers of observation, stay tactically and technically proficient and if you have learned something that will help your unit pass to your NCOs. Never send your NCO to do your job, but check first with your NCO and rehearse with him or her what you are going to say and do. Protect them if they are wrong and someone is stepping in to your AOR, never hang anyone out to dry. Have a winning attitude for your platoon, company and unit never fail. Winners love Winners, just don't cut corners, but do the extra training and always reward, reward and reward positive performance.
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CPT (Join to see)
That's my advice as well sir, having been an NCO for years and then switched to the dark side that's the one thing I tell young direct commission officers these days- learn as much as you can because you don't really have experience to draw from and knowing all the regs, techniques and procedures is half the battle without which you can't function. I also tell young officers to understand the difference between leadership and management and how to make people follow without throwing rank in more experienced soldiers faces.
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CDR William Kempner
Some points to add to the captain's sage comments:
1. Be mature. You may be young, but you're their leader. (I was a 21 y/o 2dLT in USAF before I was in USN.)
2. Don't try to be their friend. You're their boss, not their buddy. REMEMBER THAT!
3. DON'T waste your time. (a nod to the Captain above.) Study. prepare. Have some fun-if you ain't havin' any fun, you're doing it WRONG-though that seems to be the M.O. these days.(Glad I'm retired.) Learn your job, and their jobs, and even that of the guy above you, if you can.
4. Ask your senior NCO's for help-if they're any good, they'll be doing it anyway, but some might have to be greased. Let the younger NCOs/POs show you what they know and do-they're pretty smart, too, and can be real allies.
5. DON'T drink with them. If you're invited to a party, GO to it,have a beer with them, and leave a few bucks in the pot, and excuse yourself. If you're having a BRILLIANT time, stay and have a second one-and then LEAVE! Do NOT stay around. Hang with other JOs.
6. TRY to find a mentor-a senior officer who can guide and even "sponsor" you. I never had one. Had a couple of seniors who were decent-had plenty that were one-way self promoting bastards-but never had a mentor. (sigh) It helped for the guys I knew who did.
7. REMEMBER-not everyone wants good things for you, in spite of all the crap you get told at the academies or ROTC or OCS!! Listen and learn. Be mature and be careful.
8. At the end, keep your integrity. I hated some of the people I worked for. But I managed to keep a few shreds of my integrity and dignity intact I sleep well at night. Its own reward. Be true to yourself-again, its own reward. Remember who you are, and what you stand for.
9. Good luck. (Napoleon once said "I don't want generals that are good-I want generals who are LUCKY.)
1. Be mature. You may be young, but you're their leader. (I was a 21 y/o 2dLT in USAF before I was in USN.)
2. Don't try to be their friend. You're their boss, not their buddy. REMEMBER THAT!
3. DON'T waste your time. (a nod to the Captain above.) Study. prepare. Have some fun-if you ain't havin' any fun, you're doing it WRONG-though that seems to be the M.O. these days.(Glad I'm retired.) Learn your job, and their jobs, and even that of the guy above you, if you can.
4. Ask your senior NCO's for help-if they're any good, they'll be doing it anyway, but some might have to be greased. Let the younger NCOs/POs show you what they know and do-they're pretty smart, too, and can be real allies.
5. DON'T drink with them. If you're invited to a party, GO to it,have a beer with them, and leave a few bucks in the pot, and excuse yourself. If you're having a BRILLIANT time, stay and have a second one-and then LEAVE! Do NOT stay around. Hang with other JOs.
6. TRY to find a mentor-a senior officer who can guide and even "sponsor" you. I never had one. Had a couple of seniors who were decent-had plenty that were one-way self promoting bastards-but never had a mentor. (sigh) It helped for the guys I knew who did.
7. REMEMBER-not everyone wants good things for you, in spite of all the crap you get told at the academies or ROTC or OCS!! Listen and learn. Be mature and be careful.
8. At the end, keep your integrity. I hated some of the people I worked for. But I managed to keep a few shreds of my integrity and dignity intact I sleep well at night. Its own reward. Be true to yourself-again, its own reward. Remember who you are, and what you stand for.
9. Good luck. (Napoleon once said "I don't want generals that are good-I want generals who are LUCKY.)
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Capt Troop Emonds
Yes, very strong and good advice. I went from Basic School straight to an Infantry Platoon in Vietnam. I lucked out got a good Staff Sgt. For a Platoon Sgt. He had one goal. That was to help in any and all ways and he looked after the kids like a tough mother hen.
I brought two things with me. One was an absolute precise ability to land navigate day and night. The other quality I had was I just liked the people who happened to be dropped off at the war. I viewed them simply as my younger brothers. As luck would have it the prior Lt. Just was not very well liked especially by the Plt. Sgt. The troops saw me and the Plt. Sgt and I getting along real well together and that really made everything quite comfortable. It was truly what anyone would call a sweet Platoon. That platoon took care of each other. That platoon went through a lot of fighting some really amazing hand to hand engagements, one time a beat up shot up platoon attacked and presided over a full Bn. Of NVA with only 23 of us inside their base camp against hundreds of enemy soldiers. That was all about not what I knew or what any of us knew, but was about every guy doing his best to cover and help each other. A lot of us are pals today. Troop Emonds
I brought two things with me. One was an absolute precise ability to land navigate day and night. The other quality I had was I just liked the people who happened to be dropped off at the war. I viewed them simply as my younger brothers. As luck would have it the prior Lt. Just was not very well liked especially by the Plt. Sgt. The troops saw me and the Plt. Sgt and I getting along real well together and that really made everything quite comfortable. It was truly what anyone would call a sweet Platoon. That platoon took care of each other. That platoon went through a lot of fighting some really amazing hand to hand engagements, one time a beat up shot up platoon attacked and presided over a full Bn. Of NVA with only 23 of us inside their base camp against hundreds of enemy soldiers. That was all about not what I knew or what any of us knew, but was about every guy doing his best to cover and help each other. A lot of us are pals today. Troop Emonds
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Find that NCO that matches your leadership style and personality and just listen. As an officer you will have plenty of time to lead and make your own descisions. The first few years are vital and will mold the leader that you wilk become. There are far too poor or mediocar NCO's and officer. Mentorship has fallon off quite a bit, but there are still great leaders and mentors out there. Seek them out and just listen......Also when I say NCO as your mentor I speek from an Air Force prespective since it a senior NCO's duty to mentor a mold company grade officers....just my 2 cents for what its worth
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CPT (Join to see)
1stSgt (Join to see) I am going to offer the counter to your statement. I do agree with you, and found that I learned a lot from those who were similar to me and they definitely helped me find my comfort zone. However, as leaders, we can't afford to stay in our comfort zone at all times. I found that I often grew the most (even if it was simply learning which battles to fight) by being around NCOs that were dramatically different from me. This helped push my comfort zone and my ability to see things from different POVs.
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MAJ Monique Salinas
I have a couple of NCOs that I go to for advice on Soldier issues. I have a couple of COLs and GOs that I go to for decision making advice.
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LCDR (Join to see)
I agree. While as an officer, you have a degree, the senior NCOs have the longevity. They have been around the block and have seen great and terrible officers, and may have incredible insight if you are willing to listen. Also, don't assume that NCOs don't have a degree. More of them have at least one.
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Don't be afraid to bond with your Soldiers. Don't attach assumed levels of intelligence to the rank they have. Be available to listen. Respect, even though respect is automatically given to officers, it does not hurt to give respect to your Soldiers as well.
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LtCol Clinton Clark
Excellent point. We all respectively salute rank, but only a true leader inspires those around them to truly respect both rank, and the soldier.
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