Posted on Aug 31, 2018
What can be used as a source document to prove deployment time?
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I’ve been deployed twice in the Marines, and it clearly states operation enduring freedom on my Dd214. However, a dd214 is no longer accepted as a source document. So according to the Army reserve I never deployed. I know I can use deployment orders, but It’s been about 8 years and I lost them. Any suggestions on where to start?
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0151: Administrative Clerk 42A: Human Resources Specialist 79V: Retention and Transition NCO (USAR) DD214
Posted 6 y ago
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How is a DD 214 no longer accepted as a source document? Also, you can reach out to the National Archives with a submission of an SF 180 for all military documents. You won't get your stuff right away....as I know this from personal experience.....but you will get stuff.
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SSG(P) (Join to see)
I’ll try that. Thanks. I asked the same thing. Apparently some outstanding service members found ways to alter their dd214s to say all kinds of stuff
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SSG Thomas Trutt
SSG(P) (Join to see) - That doesn't make any sense at all. So what if someone altered a DD-214, do they think that people aren't able to make fake memo's, bogus deployment orders, or doctored awards? If we're going to accept any paper documents there will always be a risk of fraud.
But then again, nobody ever said the military needed to make sense.
But then again, nobody ever said the military needed to make sense.
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SFC Steven Borders
SSG(P) (Join to see) - Yes, SM's found a way to alter them with Adobe. When I took my UA Basic course. The instructors told us that just the DD214 was not enough to update a SM's record. They have to have the document showing they received the award. But you bring up a good put, that well someone could make a fake award. Some one can correct me if I am wrong. Order Numbers can bee tracked from what I understand.
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LtCol Robert Quinter
If your unit questions the validity of your DD214 it is their responsibility to prove it false. Their appropriate action is to request a copy from HQMC and, in the process any other documentation of service they might require. A request from an active unit will be handle more expeditiously than an individual request.
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I'm guessing your S1 is giving you guff about adding it to your ERB? A DD214 is a lot harder to alter than a set of typed orders.
A DD214 is a valid source document for pretty much everything and if your S1 is saying that it's not, that is a local (unit) policy not an Army - as far as I know.
A DD214 is a valid source document for pretty much everything and if your S1 is saying that it's not, that is a local (unit) policy not an Army - as far as I know.
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My suggestion is go to the higher (Brigade, Division) S1 to do your ERB update if your unit won't accept them.
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I am a 42A, Senior Human Resource Sergeant and I have NEVER heard that before. Unfortunately someone is giving you the run around, the DD214 is still a source document that can be used, it’s your verifiable proof of service and any awards, training or deployment you had. I used mine when I returned to active duty and it’s also the reason why you are instructed to keep it in a safe place once you are discharged because it’s your history and proof of time served.
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