Posted on Mar 3, 2015
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What do you do when Soldiers can't even run two miles?

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I see a lot of comments about meeting the standard. This isn't so much about meeting the "standard," as it is Soldier just simply giving up on casual group runs or making the decision they just "dont feel like doing it today." I actually heard someone say that they other day at the 1st TSC run on Saturday [in Arifjan of course]. Kind of struck a nerve.

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Leave it to the National Guard to vote that it either doesn't matter or it's bad leadership to talk about THS. Man, I miss the infantry.
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That is probably the Soldier that needs your leadership the most. You should do everything you can to help that Soldier be a Soldier, that's why you are a leader.

If you have exhausted all your resources, reconditioning PRT, counseling, flag, bar, etc. Then you have done everything in your power and the Soldier is not cut out to be in the military. Process for separation.
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Roger that CSM! I seen a post earlier this morning from a Battle at another post. He had a Soldier that couldn't even make it 2 miles in a group run at at 9 min pace. So, I thought, time to take a survey. In the spirit of Richard Dawson, "survey says...."
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CW2 Eric Scott
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Exactly. And as being a leader it is important the best way to motivate your soldiers. If you can't get them to run, it'll be harder to get them to charge.
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This should not be the everyone gets a trophy soccer team. If you can't hack it, I am going to tell you that you can't hack it. If you improve yourself then I am going to applaud the effort if not I will find someone else that will.
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The pain of the message is often in the delivery. There are many ways to communicate this point. One of the best ways is by leading by example and getting others to do the same. Currently my Company average for PT is 275. I also make sure I average much higher as to avoid hypocrisy and I demand the same of my Junior Officers and NCOs. Certainly some don't cut it and self select themselves out of the unit and some out of the uniform but this obstacle can definitely be breached.

One of the most important ways I address this is in my initial counseling when they first express interest in SF BEFORE they arrive at the unit. I make it very clear that the Army ARs will be adhered to and they will meet the standard or find another home. The day they walk into the unit they sign the counseling statement and take a PT Test (especially my officers!). The day one of my LTs arrived for an an informational interview she told me she was in shape so we went and did a PT test together on the spot. I did the same for my male XO (also a LT). They both have done marvelously and are still with the unit excelling as a leaders and Officers. Everyone over E5 gets an appointment with my 1SG and I where we explain the mantle of leadership and the expectation of modeling success and leading by example not by their words.
Then they get the opportunity to prove their words ...
What's the NCO creedo "Trust but verify"!
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