Posted on Jan 8, 2019
What are your recommendations for a good pouch for quick access to CLS supplies?
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Currently using an IFAK insert stuffed into a canteen pouch, but it's less than optimal.
Posted 6 y ago
Responses: 11
MAJ (Join to see)
True that it is highly unlikely I would be "designated" by a leg unit as a CLS soldier., but then I'm not in a leg unit. I'm assigned to legal assistance duties helping NG soldiers with their legal problems and pre/post deployment. The Army does not make a distinction between combat and non-combat units in providing the training.. Furthermore, it is my understanding that any CLS qualified soldier can also draw the CLS MES bag.
The whole point of my inquiry is to find a pouch larger than an IFAK / IFAK II pouch that will hold most of the CLS MES contents (save the splint and blankets and abdominal bandage) without my hauling around the whole bag itself.
On your other point (no pun intended), yes, NCD is still taught in CLS. However, IVs have been removed (again, no pun intended) from the course. I believe that change happened around the time you retired.
The whole point of my inquiry is to find a pouch larger than an IFAK / IFAK II pouch that will hold most of the CLS MES contents (save the splint and blankets and abdominal bandage) without my hauling around the whole bag itself.
On your other point (no pun intended), yes, NCD is still taught in CLS. However, IVs have been removed (again, no pun intended) from the course. I believe that change happened around the time you retired.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
MAJ (Join to see) - this boils down to: sir, you want to be a geardo... That's fine but at least admit it.
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SSG Dave Johnston
MAJ (Join to see) -
Try these depending on the mission parameters:
NSN 8465-01-571-5231 / NSN 6545-01-532-3674 / NSN 6545-01-537-0686 /
NSN 8465-01-580-2779 / NSN 8465-01-612-4157 / NSN 6545-01-574-8111 /
NSN: 6545-01-649-2467 / NSN 6545-01-537-2342 /
There was one Aid /MOLLE Bag that would strap to the back of the Driver/Assistant drivers seat, convenient and out of the way
Try these depending on the mission parameters:
NSN 8465-01-571-5231 / NSN 6545-01-532-3674 / NSN 6545-01-537-0686 /
NSN 8465-01-580-2779 / NSN 8465-01-612-4157 / NSN 6545-01-574-8111 /
NSN: 6545-01-649-2467 / NSN 6545-01-537-2342 /
There was one Aid /MOLLE Bag that would strap to the back of the Driver/Assistant drivers seat, convenient and out of the way
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MAJ (Join to see)
Where it's supposed to be, SSG. On my chest rig. I was looking for an extra pouch to carry the supplies to care for 2-4 other soldiers.
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MSG (Join to see)
MAJ (Join to see) - Just checking, Sir. I found it odd when you stated that you carry your stuff in a canteen pouch. I was beginning to worry if your Supply didn't give you all the proper equipment.
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SSG Dave Johnston
MAJ (Join to see) -
Even in my day the only use it was good for was a bathing kit: Towell in the large pouch soap / razor / shampoo / wash cloth in the other 2 pockets.
Even in my day the only use it was good for was a bathing kit: Towell in the large pouch soap / razor / shampoo / wash cloth in the other 2 pockets.
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Tactical Tailor makes some really good pouches, but they are a bit more expensive than most places. I'd recommend looking at SKDtac.com, and uspatriottactical.com for pouches though Sir. In the end, you're the one that'll have to pick what you want to be able to carry, and know how much room you have on your kit. But here is the one that I currently have:
https://www.skdtac.com/S-O-Tech-VIPER-Flat-IFAK-A1-p/sot.601.htm
https://www.skdtac.com/S-O-Tech-VIPER-Flat-IFAK-A1-p/sot.601.htm
If you are tired of having a clumsy football-shaped attachment on your side at all times or if you are tired of having to lean to one-side when riding in a vehicle or aircraft, then you are ready for the next generation in IFAK design.
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MAJ (Join to see)
Most of my kit is from Tactical Tailor (purchased on sale, thankfully), but I didn't like their IFAK pouch Also looked at products from Granite Gear, LBT, NAR. Just looked at the SO Tech product which would work great as a replacement for the regular IFAK, but what I was looking for was something larger to fit supplies for several soldiers. Wound up trying a Condor tear-away pouch (I live in Marine Corps country), which fits pretty much everything. Only problem is that it's bulky and I worry that the Velcro will wear out. We'll see how it holds up.
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MAJ (Join to see)
Wound up with a Tactical Tailor First Responder Bag. Holds everything that the MES CLS bag holds in a slightly more compact package.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
MAJ (Join to see) - Little late to the conversation but will say Sir, as someone that has gone from 91B (68W) to critical care RN and paramedic, what I carried in the 90s and what I carry today is vastly different. I used to carry a huge aid bag and today all I carry is a couple caths for pneumos, a couple fancy tourniquets, and some quick clot. It took me a while to figure it out but most scenes will have what you need sans the caths. Pretty much every soldier wears a belt that can be a tourniquet, torn uniforms are great to apply direct pressure and cover a wound. The lethal triad is pneumos, hemorrhage, and closed head injuries. You can only effect two of the three at the point of injury and the only thing you will not readily have is a 14ga needle long enough to puncture a lung.
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