Posted on Jun 18, 2015
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President Obama addresses America about the reckless, ignorant shooting at the Charleston Carolina Church. I really am glad he addressed what is going on, and I think in a very positive way...

What happened there at that Church, Ugh I hate it! It's dumb and pathetic. Prayers to those involved! Senseless!! I'm glad they caught the SOB so they can have some justice. Those idiots usually go out the cowardly way!

However, POTUS Obama states that the people who are getting these weapons to do these kinds of acts, well it's too easy. I agree that people that are deemed mentally Ill, yes, it just might be. But SANE people don't do these things.

POTUS: "At some point, we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries. It doesn’t happen in other places with this kind of frequency."

What I can't get over and/or don't know how to perceive this, is that he thinks this type of mass murder doesn't happen anywhere else. Or not in this magnitude...

When I think about what goes on in Israel, Palestine, Iran, Iraq... I am left wondering HUH??? No I don't believe what he said. LOL

Do you agree??

I included my most FAV Democrats so that we might have an adult discussion. :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6siu-WLOPKI&feature=player_embedded
In my opinion, this kiddo gets it.
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Respond to original question…The President is out of touch with reality and so are the rest of the white house. Syria, Iraq, (anywhere ISIS is) Nigeria, Somalia, Do I need to go on. The problem is just like they will not say radical islam they want to blame anybody or everybody but the person who comited the crime. Because a few bad apples do bad does not justify slapping every law abiding citizen. Sticking your collective heads in the sand just makes you a stationary target of oppertunity.
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LCDR Bruce Cooley
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No. Unfortunately the President is being disingenuous in his remarks. Now, in comparing this with "Developed Countries" he is technically correct, they do not have many 'handgun' related violence because weapon ownership is either illegal or extremely to obtain. Worldwide however, and not just in war zones or '3rd world countries', there are more examples of even more heinous crimes committed. The MAJOR point that he, and other 'anti-gun' agitators refuse to admit is, IF conceal and carry were allowed this probably would not have happened. The City of Portland during the '90's allowed a very loose permitting of conceal and carry permits and the following year violent 'gun' crime dropped almost 90%. "Bad Actors" do not prey on populations where they might get hurt or killed. They only prey on the defenseless.
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LCDR Bruce Cooley
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Sorry for the missing words.....typing slower than my mind was thinking.
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LCDR Bruce Cooley
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Thank you PO3 Jason Melito! I have placed in the FaceBook pages of several of my, over the top, mindlessly believers of the Media. A couple of the actually work for the network news media!!!
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LCDR Bruce Cooley
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PO3 Jason Melito - That always helps.....I would also suggest (as I do) that individuals actually look to see the if the outlet they're getting their information from has and "agenda"...... We, as a nation, have become so divisive that the 'news' has adapted it's 'reporting' to cater to whatever population group has the most buying power. It's nuts.....so I tend to watch several different sources, but find One America News Network to be even more 'centered' than FoxNews. I do seperate the "news" from their show.
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CPT Pedro Meza
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SGT Veronica Fulgham - Blais, the gun was a birthday gift in April from his father. In the countries you mentioned there are active conflicts among different groups, which is what he was trying to provoke here in the US.
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CPT Pedro Meza, Pedro, that's what was said at first. Now they're saying his dad gave him money for his birthday, and that's how he got the gun.
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CPT Pedro Meza
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SGT Keith Bodine, if the shooter bought the gun on his own sad to say that this will add fuel to the anger and both side of the gun debate. I only hope that the debate stops and both side seat down to a dialogue with give and take on both sides.
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It's a false narrative to say it doesn't happen elsewhere. When isis executes a bunch of non-muslims isn't it the exact same thing? A radical extremist(s) commits mass murder, i personally don't see a difference. They are both mentally unstable people committing atrocious crimes.
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I think he gets away with this quote because who would consider a place and people like ISIS to be "advanced?" Stuck that word in. Limits the Countries.
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MSgt James Mullis
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What about Mexico. Juarez isn't called the murder capital of the World for nothing.
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SPC Don Stringer
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Didn't dozens of young girls get abducted and murdered there?
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MSgt James Mullis
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I should say that homicides are down in Juarez to an average of only 30 homicides a month for a city with a population of just over 1.3 million. Oh and only 430 people were killed in 2014.
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I guess SGT Fulgham-Blais it depends on what your weapon of choice is. In France terrorists attacked offices and shot to death people there and we all watched the execution of the police officer pleading for his life up until the moment the terrorist pulled the trigger on his gun. A few of these modern day terrorists were neither residents nor had travel visas they had simply arrived in country.

In Africa Rwandan Genocide was carried out by Machete, club or guns with over 1 million being killed because of ethnic, religious or social status differences.

Turkey has recently admitted to mass killings of nearly 200,000 by warring factions in their country and specifically in the city of Cizre. They simply held prisoners in basements until they ran out of food and water and resorted to cannibalism to stay alive. Then armed individuals went into the basements and executed the ones that were left.

To be clear the number of shootings in these United States are inexcusable but individual shooting numbered approximately 34,000 in 2013 compared to the number killed in mass shootings at 40 are headline grabbers and usually affect the most innocent of our population namely woman and children.

Guns are to easily gotten and not by legitimate purchases. They are stolen in burglaries, bought in back alleys etc.
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SFC Maury Gonzalez
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The president only watches the Obama news networks (cnn, msnbc ),so he has no clue about what's going on around the world.
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He's found a lot out by watching the news, that is a fact. Lol
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Col Stan VanderWerf
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Every advanced country has experience with mass murder events. Some have many. And when you compare the number of mass murder events with the number of guns owned by private citizens in that country, we have the lowest rate of events per 100,000 guns owned by far. These other countries that restrict gun ownership actually have higher mass murder events with guns because people who want to do this get a gun illegally and know their risk of getting shot back is very low. The locations where we have mass murder are typically where gun wearing is NOT permitted, like in schools, movie theaters, and churches. Again, these are targets for these bad people with bad intentions. So I say again, it is NOT about the gun, but about the person.
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SPC Don Stringer
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I wish this kid was the media speaker who comments on the Presidents address. He is far more knowledgeable than any of those lying talking heads. In fact, id vote for him if he ran for office. I love hearing young people who can speak intellectually and with common sense.
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Right?? He should've wrote this down for the POTUS to read of his teleprompter. SPC Don Stringer
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SrA Johnathan Kropke
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This happens in every country, it usually happens on even greater scales as well.

Now I am willing to be analytical first, so let's analyze his statement of this doesn't happen in advanced countries.....
Venezuela, South Africa, Mexico, Nigeria, India, and Brazil are all higher murder rates than the U.S and if we go below the U.S for count of murders for countries like Russia and China, their rate is 9.2 and 7.7, much higher than America's 4.7.
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And those countries you listed, well they are fairly Advanced. Brazil! I wanna go there.
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