Posted on Jun 1, 2015
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An unidentified female Navy Officer, staying at an upscale NYC hotel with family while visiting during Fleet Week festivities last week was taken aback when her group was stopped by bouncers and prevented from entering the hotel's bar one evening. At first, nobody could figure it out, everyone was dressed in professional attire; until the bouncer's indicated that the Officer's Class A Uniform did not fit it's criteria for female dress, and they weren't backing down. How about it? How would you address such an insulting situation?
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PO2 Nathan Meyer
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I wouldn't go to a club in uniform anyway. I thought only boot privates did that? Free drinks aren't worth it especially when you aren't supposed to be drinking in uniform anyways.
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PO1 Jason Bishop
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Certain establishments have rules, and human beings are put there to enforce them. That doesn't mean they will always make rational decisions when trying to follow the rules to a T. I can give you some equally, if not MORE absurd rules that some ridiculous people in the military have went overboard on. On MCBH Kaneohe, they have a strict dress code for the exchange and commissary. No PT gear being one of the rules. Some marine decided that applied to an 8 year old boy wearing basketball shorts while with his mom trying to shop for groceries. Then on the other side of the island on Hickam, one of our planes got ahead of one of our others and used their landing approval instead of getting their own, so when the other one landed, out came Air Force security and made everyone exit the plane at gun point, including the crew and space A passengers. That's pretty standard protocol, and also the people on the plane are supposed to face away from the terminal. One man happened to be holding his two year old, and one of the E- nothings yelled at him to turn the two year old around so that he wasn't facing the terminal.
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PO2 Gregory Wooldridge
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I would cause no scene. I would report this to my upper chain of command. Hopefully the U.S. Navy would banned Military Personnel from this place, and if it is a Chain it would be a ban on ALL of them.
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LTJG (Other / Not listed)
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Edited >1 y ago
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CDR Larry Askins
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Just boycott the hotel and if it is a chain - the entire outfit. If they have someone so stupid that he makes that call or he is enforcing the managements antimilitary opinion - time to boycott them. L the infidel.
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FN Michael MacDonald
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My country is really starting to embarass me. Military dress should be acceptable EVERYWHERE! I can understandsagging pants, gang colors, and all other forms of inappropriate dress, but a military uniform. What a joke! I would never ever patronize that establishment again, and I would write a scathing letter to their corporate office shaming them for the manner in which they treat military personnel. How shameful
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LT Surface Warfare Officer
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proof that the female uniform does not look good on females, but tends to make them look frumpy and unattractive... especially in summer whites. Maybe there should be a uniform cut and designed for a woman's body, just a suggestion...
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PO2 Anthony Portillo
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As a Navy veteran, I would have dug my heels deep. Stood my ground as a proud Sailor. Then, I would obtained the bouncer name and additional information. Then I would have gone to the national media. Recording a video is always a excellent choice to protect yourself. Why is there so much contempt for military personnel?
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PO3 Chaz Sutherland
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As distasteful as this is I don't believe any private enterprise should be forced to accommodate exceptions, so long as they are consistent on their practices. The hotel apologized, which is a step in the right direction for them making the change under their own volition. If they were forced to take her in that night this would most likely go the wrong way.
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PO2 Aviation Electronics Technician (At)
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Are those even authorized at a bar?? I was on emergency leave stopped by a bar in uniform with food being served and will never do it again. The amount of vets that came out of the woodworks dear Jesus!!!
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