Posted on Jun 1, 2015
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An unidentified female Navy Officer, staying at an upscale NYC hotel with family while visiting during Fleet Week festivities last week was taken aback when her group was stopped by bouncers and prevented from entering the hotel's bar one evening. At first, nobody could figure it out, everyone was dressed in professional attire; until the bouncer's indicated that the Officer's Class A Uniform did not fit it's criteria for female dress, and they weren't backing down. How about it? How would you address such an insulting situation?
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SSG Intelligence Analyst
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Find a better establishment to hang out/spend my money at.
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PO3 German Corea
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I won't make a scene of any level but I will imply that the establishment is unpatriotic and say so on social media before leaving to elsewhere.
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PO3 Kevin Luby
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You take a picture of the outside of the bar and tell the story on Facebook and Twitter. Make them look foolish..
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PO3 William Farinas
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Ask the manger to show what there dress code requirements for there establishment is, and how the Navy's First class dress Uniform doe's not fall in line with there dress code. Then if they refuse to do so, Than the Officer than has the wright to file a discrimination complaint against the establishment. Or take it to internal affairs and have it put out to the media, and the public about that establishment, and how they treat our Brave Men and Women in Uniform who serve and protect the freedom of this country, So places like that have the freedom to operate. And to put a memo out to all Military personal to avoid that business and spend there hard earned dollars else ware, where they will be welcome. Always do so with the upmost respect that the military ask of there personal. By the way I salute you all!!! God Bless you who serve, and God Bless America!!!!
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LT Stephen Amiaga
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I'd additionally mention the name of the mis-guided hotel in the social media post, so others know to use the power of the purse to change things.
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CMDCM Gene Treants
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and check your cummerbund for crumbs
We did love Fleet Week in NYC!
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SPC Charles Brown
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Talk to friends and fellow service members about establishment and have an "unofficial" off limits to not only the bar/restaurant but the hotel as well. Establish a boycott with Service Members and families of service members. Post bad reviews on the website. Just a few off the top of my head.
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SPC Charles Brown
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Always remember that peaceful protests are much better than kicking the shit out of someone. Besides the mess is always easier to clean up after peacefully making your case MAJ (Join to see).
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Yelp is a powerful tool also. Head honchos of companies read those comments.
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Maj Chris Nelson
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IF I really felt compelled to visit this establishment, I would ask for a manager. Sometimes tho, just accepting their house rules (right or wrong) is easier....go find someplace that works better.
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MSG Dennis Terens
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Going anywhere in uniform is a double edged sword. In a bar is just adding another variable.
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As it was fleet week, the uniform was required...the location was optional.
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PO3 David Fries
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Their house, their rules.
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CMDCM Gene Treants
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My Off Limits Rules
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Shortly after WWII, my father and friends had a similar problem at an establishment that had posted, "Sailors and Dogs Not Allowed". After getting snubbed by the manager, my father's wealthy friend proceeded to buy the place and then fire the manager. He then immediately sold it back to the original owner. :D
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