Posted on Nov 8, 2015
This was done in 1969. Did you know about LT. Calley's Apology for the My Lai massacre?
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LT. William Calley was found guilty of 22 counts of murder in what is known as The My Lai massacre, in a village, in 1968. I've never heard anything about him apologizing for his actions. Women and babies were slaughtered, by LT. Cally's platoon, while on an assault on My Lai. I still don't know if it was done by exhausted, confused troops ordered by Calley to kill everyone or if he was ordered to do it.
And now, here is the rest of the story:
William Calley, the former Army lieutenant convicted on 22 counts of murder in the infamous My Lai Massacre in Vietnam, publicly apologized for the first time this week while speaking in Columbus.
“There is not a day that goes by that I do not feel remorse for what happened that day in My Lai,” Calley told members of the Kiwanis Club of Greater Columbus on Wednesday. His voice started to break when he added, “I feel remorse for the Vietnamese who were killed, for their families, for the American soldiers involved and their families. I am very sorry.”
In March 1968, U.S. soldiers gunned down hundreds of civilians in the Vietnamese hamlet of My Lai. The Army at first denied, then downplayed the event, saying most of the dead were Vietcong. But in November 1969, journalist Seymour Hersh revealed what really happened and Calley was court martialed and convicted of murder.
Calley had long refused to grant interviews about what happened, but on Wednesday he spoke at a Columbus Kiwanis meeting. He made only a brief statement, but agreed to take questions from the audience.
He did not deny what had happened that day, but did repeatedly make the point — which he has made before — that he was following orders.
Calley explained he had been ordered to take out My Lai, adding that he had intelligence that the village was fortified and would be “hot” when he went in. He also said the area was submitted to an artillery barrage and helicopter fire before his troops went in. It turned out that it was not hot and there was no armed resistance. But he had been told, he said, that if he left anyone behind, his troops could be trapped and caught in a crossfire.
Asked about American casualties, Calley said there were two injuries, but neither was the result of enemy fire, adding, “They didn’t have time.”
One person asked about the story of a helicopter coming into My Lai during the massacre and its pilot threatening to open fire if the killing of civilians didn’t stop.
Calley said the pilot asked if he could take children out of the area and he relayed that request to his captain, who said the pilot could.
As far as any threats to fire on American soldiers by the pilot, or any threats of firing on the chopper, he said he does not recall hearing about that. He did say the helicopter was making a lot of noise during his conversation with the pilot.
Asked if the story about the threat to fire on troops killing civilians came from the pilot, Calley replied, “It certainly didn’t come from me.”
When asked if obeying an unlawful order was not itself an unlawful act, he said, “I believe that is true. If you are asking why I did not stand up to them when I was given the orders, I will have to say that I was a second lieutenant getting orders from my commander and I followed them — foolishly, I guess.” Calley then said that was not an excuse; it was just what happened.
The officer Calley said gave those orders was Capt. Ernest Medina, who was also tried for what happened at My Lai. Represented by the renowned Defense Attorney F. Lee Bailey, Medina was acquitted of all charges in 1971.
That same year, Calley didn’t fare as well.
After four months of testimony in a Fort Benning courtroom and almost two weeks of jury deliberation, he was convicted of premeditated murder. After the verdict was read, but before sentencing, Calley was allowed to address the court.
“I’m not going to stand here and plead for my life or my freedom,” Calley said. “If I have committed a crime, the only crime I have committed is in judgment of my values. Apparently I valued my troops’ lives more than I did those of the enemy ...”
Calley was sentenced to life in prison, which was later shortened considerably.
Many at the time considered Calley a scapegoat, forced to take the fall for those above him. That sentiment had been very strong when the late federal Judge J. Robert Elliot released Calley from custody after a habeas corpus hearing. An appeals court reversed Elliot’s ruling and Calley was returned to Army custody, but the Army soon paroled him.
Calley then settled in Columbus, married a young woman named Penny Vick and worked in her father’s jewelry store here for years. He now lives in Atlanta with his 28-year-old son, Laws, who is doing doctoral work in electrical engineering at Georgia Tech.
Calley has been free now for years, but he remains stripped of some of his civil rights.
“No, I still cannot vote,” he said. “In fact, I’m not even supposed to go into the post office, I guess.”
Read more here: http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/local/article29059669.html#storylink=cpy
And now, here is the rest of the story:
William Calley, the former Army lieutenant convicted on 22 counts of murder in the infamous My Lai Massacre in Vietnam, publicly apologized for the first time this week while speaking in Columbus.
“There is not a day that goes by that I do not feel remorse for what happened that day in My Lai,” Calley told members of the Kiwanis Club of Greater Columbus on Wednesday. His voice started to break when he added, “I feel remorse for the Vietnamese who were killed, for their families, for the American soldiers involved and their families. I am very sorry.”
In March 1968, U.S. soldiers gunned down hundreds of civilians in the Vietnamese hamlet of My Lai. The Army at first denied, then downplayed the event, saying most of the dead were Vietcong. But in November 1969, journalist Seymour Hersh revealed what really happened and Calley was court martialed and convicted of murder.
Calley had long refused to grant interviews about what happened, but on Wednesday he spoke at a Columbus Kiwanis meeting. He made only a brief statement, but agreed to take questions from the audience.
He did not deny what had happened that day, but did repeatedly make the point — which he has made before — that he was following orders.
Calley explained he had been ordered to take out My Lai, adding that he had intelligence that the village was fortified and would be “hot” when he went in. He also said the area was submitted to an artillery barrage and helicopter fire before his troops went in. It turned out that it was not hot and there was no armed resistance. But he had been told, he said, that if he left anyone behind, his troops could be trapped and caught in a crossfire.
Asked about American casualties, Calley said there were two injuries, but neither was the result of enemy fire, adding, “They didn’t have time.”
One person asked about the story of a helicopter coming into My Lai during the massacre and its pilot threatening to open fire if the killing of civilians didn’t stop.
Calley said the pilot asked if he could take children out of the area and he relayed that request to his captain, who said the pilot could.
As far as any threats to fire on American soldiers by the pilot, or any threats of firing on the chopper, he said he does not recall hearing about that. He did say the helicopter was making a lot of noise during his conversation with the pilot.
Asked if the story about the threat to fire on troops killing civilians came from the pilot, Calley replied, “It certainly didn’t come from me.”
When asked if obeying an unlawful order was not itself an unlawful act, he said, “I believe that is true. If you are asking why I did not stand up to them when I was given the orders, I will have to say that I was a second lieutenant getting orders from my commander and I followed them — foolishly, I guess.” Calley then said that was not an excuse; it was just what happened.
The officer Calley said gave those orders was Capt. Ernest Medina, who was also tried for what happened at My Lai. Represented by the renowned Defense Attorney F. Lee Bailey, Medina was acquitted of all charges in 1971.
That same year, Calley didn’t fare as well.
After four months of testimony in a Fort Benning courtroom and almost two weeks of jury deliberation, he was convicted of premeditated murder. After the verdict was read, but before sentencing, Calley was allowed to address the court.
“I’m not going to stand here and plead for my life or my freedom,” Calley said. “If I have committed a crime, the only crime I have committed is in judgment of my values. Apparently I valued my troops’ lives more than I did those of the enemy ...”
Calley was sentenced to life in prison, which was later shortened considerably.
Many at the time considered Calley a scapegoat, forced to take the fall for those above him. That sentiment had been very strong when the late federal Judge J. Robert Elliot released Calley from custody after a habeas corpus hearing. An appeals court reversed Elliot’s ruling and Calley was returned to Army custody, but the Army soon paroled him.
Calley then settled in Columbus, married a young woman named Penny Vick and worked in her father’s jewelry store here for years. He now lives in Atlanta with his 28-year-old son, Laws, who is doing doctoral work in electrical engineering at Georgia Tech.
Calley has been free now for years, but he remains stripped of some of his civil rights.
“No, I still cannot vote,” he said. “In fact, I’m not even supposed to go into the post office, I guess.”
Read more here: http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/local/article29059669.html#storylink=cpy
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Many years ago I read about then LT. William Calley apologizing for his actions for teh My Lai massacre when he was at Fort Benning I believe SGT (Join to see)
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LTC Stephen F.
SGT (Join to see) - I was station at Fort Benning a few times from 1979 to 1989. Since he lived in that area the story was covered in the local paper.
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LTC Stephen F., If only I had re-enlisted, and not been killed on my other tours, I was assured I would have, we might have met when you were there. Sound logical? Lol
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Wow, thanks for the post. It was a lingering question in my mind as to whatever happened to the Lt. Always wondered what became of the Calley.
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I did too and when I ran across this story, it answered my question. I remember when I heard about this after I got back from Nam. At that time, and now I feel the same way. It was BS.
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My update on my question:
I just finished watching the video of the My Lai massacre. My opinion is that the entire C company troopers were guilty of following orders to kill anyone that moved when they entered that village. The orders came from higher up than the Company commander. There was no scouting the village by helicopters to see if there were combatants. In my unit, before we went on an air assault, which meant carrying the infantry to the combat zone, a scout H-13 chopper was sent out to see if it was going to be a hot LZ. Most of the time they came back with a bullet hole in the chin bubble. Sometimes they were shot down. So, when we went in, anything that moved was a target. What we did was no different than what C company did, except we didn't fly around, after the assault, shooting prisoners or villagers. In fact, several days before we went in, the villagers were extracted and relocated.
In My Lai, the orders were that the entire village and area was infiltrated with VC, NVA, and enemy sympathizers. The massacre was caused by the troops being mad and hating the Vietnamese for what happened to them before entering My Lai. They had been killed by snipers, booby traps, and land mines. Something like what happened, I can understand. Sometimes you got so frustrated and angry, you could turn into an animal, not realizing or thinking about what you are doing.
From the grunt all, the way up to a General, there were charges pressed about covering up the massacre. By the time it was over and done, only Calley was tried and found guilty of murder. So, it is my opinion that although Calley gave orders and killed civilians, he was made a scapegoat for the entire massacre and cover up. None of his troops were charged for killing innocent civilians. None of his command was charged for giving the order to kill everything. Only Calley, was, and that to me made him a scapegoat.
I just finished watching the video of the My Lai massacre. My opinion is that the entire C company troopers were guilty of following orders to kill anyone that moved when they entered that village. The orders came from higher up than the Company commander. There was no scouting the village by helicopters to see if there were combatants. In my unit, before we went on an air assault, which meant carrying the infantry to the combat zone, a scout H-13 chopper was sent out to see if it was going to be a hot LZ. Most of the time they came back with a bullet hole in the chin bubble. Sometimes they were shot down. So, when we went in, anything that moved was a target. What we did was no different than what C company did, except we didn't fly around, after the assault, shooting prisoners or villagers. In fact, several days before we went in, the villagers were extracted and relocated.
In My Lai, the orders were that the entire village and area was infiltrated with VC, NVA, and enemy sympathizers. The massacre was caused by the troops being mad and hating the Vietnamese for what happened to them before entering My Lai. They had been killed by snipers, booby traps, and land mines. Something like what happened, I can understand. Sometimes you got so frustrated and angry, you could turn into an animal, not realizing or thinking about what you are doing.
From the grunt all, the way up to a General, there were charges pressed about covering up the massacre. By the time it was over and done, only Calley was tried and found guilty of murder. So, it is my opinion that although Calley gave orders and killed civilians, he was made a scapegoat for the entire massacre and cover up. None of his troops were charged for killing innocent civilians. None of his command was charged for giving the order to kill everything. Only Calley, was, and that to me made him a scapegoat.
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1SG Charles Hunter
Calley's platoon sergeant (I think his name was Williams) was court-martialed at Fort Hood, but was acquitted.
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1SG Charles Hunter, Is this the SGT you were referring to? A squad leader in Calley’s platoon, Sgt. David Mitchell, St. Francisville, La., is underinvestigation for assault with intent to murder.
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1SG Charles Hunter
SGT (Join to see) - That's probably the same person. He's the only other person who faced charges in the MyLai affair.
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I seriously doubt we will ever know everything that happened that day. I doubt that anyone in the village that day will ever know exactly what happened and why....Or by who.
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SFC Everett Oliver, If I had my druthers, I would believe LT. Calley, before I would believe the command's version. Besides that, an NCO verified Calley's side of the story. The old saying " crap rolls down hill", should have been uphill this time. IMHO
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SGT (Join to see) I had never heard anything about him apologizing either. Thank you for posting this. It is always good to hear, "the rest of the story".
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CPT (Join to see), I think he was eating some humble pie. Even though he may have been ordered to do it, it was still on him as the PL. He was a scapegoat IMO. nasty things happen in nasty wars. Thinking back, I killed an unarmed NVA. I could have easily been charged with something. My pilots determined it was a righteous kill.
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SGT (Join to see) - He may well have been eating some "humble pie". I'm glad you weren't charged.
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CPT (Join to see), Me too. I never gave it a thought. I was doing my job in my eyes. I probably killed some civilians in our air assaults, but I'm glad I don't know that I did or didn't. That would haunt me. It's bad enough seeing those eyes staring at me, wondering if I was going to do it or not. I would imagine all of us have done some things in a war we regret or think about a lot. When you're 20, and your job is to kill the enemy, you don't give it a second thought. At least, I didn't.
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I don't remember this article, in particular. For a long time I thought it was what now is considered PTSD, and reacted because he had seen so many of his charges killed by these same people. Unless, he made some sort of deal to cover up for his superiors, he probably should not have had his sentence reduced.
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Capt Seid Waddell, So you got to Nam right after he was arrested? I'll bet there were a lot of rumors flying around. I'm still amazed his command didn't follow protocol. Instead, taking someone's word there were nothing but enemy in that area, and not sending a scout chopper to get more Intel. I'm also amazed Calley's CO 's did all of that without thinking they would be caught. If that helicopter had not been there, it probably would have been blamed on the VC and NVA. They did the same thing Calley's men did, all of the time. Usually if a platoon hit a village of known VC/NVA sympathizers, they would find all of the weapons, and rice, and extract the women and babies, and arrest the older boys, younger men, if there were any there, and the old men, and bring them back as POW's. I'm just glad I wasn't involved in anything like that, on purpose, or accidental, my getting caught up in the moment.
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Capt Seid Waddell
SGT (Join to see), evidently word traveled slowly at the time. I recall hearing the news that Lt. Calley had been arrested part way through my tour; upon looking it up on the net, it is clear that he was arrested 10 months before I got there. And yes, it was a big deal for all of us at the time.
It is my understanding that it required both Vietnamese government and U.S. military commanders to sign off that an area was completely enemy controlled and that there were no friendlies in the area in order to declare it a free-fire zone. These areas were heavily bombed and covered by artillery as well. My Lai was in a free-fire zone.
It is my understanding that it required both Vietnamese government and U.S. military commanders to sign off that an area was completely enemy controlled and that there were no friendlies in the area in order to declare it a free-fire zone. These areas were heavily bombed and covered by artillery as well. My Lai was in a free-fire zone.
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Capt Seid Waddell, We had a lot of free fire air assaults. It was a huge rush to be able to let it all hang out on those assaults. I burned up a couple of barrels.
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I always believed Calley was a killer for over 30 years. A few years back I had an opportunity to read the transcripts of his Court Martial---I wasn't so sure after that---It seemed to me the Army wanted someone to blame this mess on--why know this insignificant Lieutenant.
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1SG Sims. That's why crap rolls downhill. Someone had to take the rap. It couldn't be his platoon members because he gave the order. It couldn't be LT. Calley's upper command because they will say they know nothing. So, it all comes downhill on him. He absolutely was a patsy. Shame on them. He did kill civilians. If he hadn't done that, he probably still would have been a scapegoat.
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1SG Patrick Sims
As a commissioned officer Calley had the final responsibility for everything hid men did. But if you read the transcripts of his court martial you can see where the Army screwed him. Don't get me wrong---he was guilty, but two of his men who participated in the killings were given immunity from prosecution to testify against him. His commanding officer Captain Earnest Medina testified against him----when he got out of the Army he confessed the Army told him to lie and he did. All the bullshit that came down on him, is the reason President Nixon pardoned him. The Army got aw3ay with destroying his life to cover their ass.
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