Posted on Dec 3, 2015
So... What will it take for our current administration to (A) mutter the word Terrorism, and then (B) decide enough is enough?
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When, will we go all in, and realize this is war, total war... and our response needs to be at least commensurate with these consistent attacks...
Am I the only one who is tired and frustrated?
Am I the only one who is tired and frustrated?
War on Terror
Terrorism
Barack Obama
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Sgt Philip Edwards
The initial shooting happened shortly before 11 a.m. PST at a conference area in a social services center for the disabled, where Farook's colleagues were holding a holiday banquet. Witnesses said the suspects were wearing body armor and masks and moved with grim precision. Gunfire sent people scrambling to hide under desks, barricade themselves in room or flee for their lives.
"They came prepared to do what they did, as if they were on a mission," Burguan, the police chief, said earlier Wednesday.
The chief said that Farook had angrily left the party before returning with Malik. However, other investigators doubted the alleged dispute had taken place or whether the shooting could solely be chalked up to a workplace dispute due to the apparent planning behind the attack as well as the heavy weaponry used
"They came prepared to do what they did, as if they were on a mission," Burguan, the police chief, said earlier Wednesday.
The chief said that Farook had angrily left the party before returning with Malik. However, other investigators doubted the alleged dispute had taken place or whether the shooting could solely be chalked up to a workplace dispute due to the apparent planning behind the attack as well as the heavy weaponry used
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Well CW4 (Join to see), at least we can be thankful that he didn't blame the San Bernardino shooting on global warming.
This is a problem of appearances versus realities, and our President does not see the realities of terrorism. On the other side, he attempts to blame gun violence on those that go out and buy guns legally, trying to make it more difficult for LEGAL gun sales to take place. At the same time, there is no extra effort being made to address ILLEGAL gun sales. (There is also no solid system in place to mental health issues in our society. But that's a story for another time.)
Until our POTUS, and the lawmakers, are willing to set almost ridiculous penalties for the use of an illegal/stolen gun used in a crime, then this cycle of violence is going to continue. Criminals realize that using, or being caught with, an illegal firearm while committing a crime will get them a maximum of one to two years in jail in most states. Naturally, as soon as they get out, normally in 4 to 6 months, if it was not a "violent crime", the criminal will return to the streets and get another illegal gun, and the process start all over again. It's time to get real with our laws.
This is a problem of appearances versus realities, and our President does not see the realities of terrorism. On the other side, he attempts to blame gun violence on those that go out and buy guns legally, trying to make it more difficult for LEGAL gun sales to take place. At the same time, there is no extra effort being made to address ILLEGAL gun sales. (There is also no solid system in place to mental health issues in our society. But that's a story for another time.)
Until our POTUS, and the lawmakers, are willing to set almost ridiculous penalties for the use of an illegal/stolen gun used in a crime, then this cycle of violence is going to continue. Criminals realize that using, or being caught with, an illegal firearm while committing a crime will get them a maximum of one to two years in jail in most states. Naturally, as soon as they get out, normally in 4 to 6 months, if it was not a "violent crime", the criminal will return to the streets and get another illegal gun, and the process start all over again. It's time to get real with our laws.
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CW4 Guy Butler
Turns out at least two of the weapons were bought legally:
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-suspect-gun-purchase-20151202-story.html
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-suspect-gun-purchase-20151202-story.html
Two guns recovered from San Bernardino shooting suspects were purchased legally, federal...
Meredith Davis, a spokeswoman for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, said officials had "successfully traced" the four guns recovered in connection with the San Bernardino shooting and determined that two of the weapons were purchased legally.
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PVT Robert Gresham
CW4 Guy Butler - Legally bought, in one of the strictest gun control states in the Country..... Do you think stricter background checks would have made a difference?
I have a lot of questions about the whole, "allowing people on the no fly list" to buy firearms, and other elements of "gun control", especially for the mentally ill, that seem to have no definitive answers. Until some of these questions ARE answered, the Federal Government needs to be pursuing the clear, actual problems, like illegal gun sales and usage. Just my opinion.
I have a lot of questions about the whole, "allowing people on the no fly list" to buy firearms, and other elements of "gun control", especially for the mentally ill, that seem to have no definitive answers. Until some of these questions ARE answered, the Federal Government needs to be pursuing the clear, actual problems, like illegal gun sales and usage. Just my opinion.
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CW4 Guy Butler
CPT Pc Arroyo Interesting. Just pulled the following from Fox News:
Sources close to the investigation told Fox News that information about the prior planned attack was revealed in interviews with Marquez, who Reuters reported last year married Mariya Chernykh, whose sister is the wife of Syed Raheel Farook, the shooter’s brother. Federal officials told The New York Times that Marquez purchased the rifles legally in 2011 or 2012 and either gave or sold them to Farook.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/09/investigators-believe-syed-farook-planned-attack-prior-to-san-bernardino/
From the sounds of it, this may have been a private sale, not a straw purchase, since the FBI is not considering him a suspect.
Sources close to the investigation told Fox News that information about the prior planned attack was revealed in interviews with Marquez, who Reuters reported last year married Mariya Chernykh, whose sister is the wife of Syed Raheel Farook, the shooter’s brother. Federal officials told The New York Times that Marquez purchased the rifles legally in 2011 or 2012 and either gave or sold them to Farook.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/09/investigators-believe-syed-farook-planned-attack-prior-to-san-bernardino/
From the sounds of it, this may have been a private sale, not a straw purchase, since the FBI is not considering him a suspect.
Farook planned earlier terror attack, says pal who supplied guns in San Bernardino shooting
Federal investigators believe San Bernardino terrorist Syed Farook may have planned an attack prior to last week's assault on a social service center that left 14 dead and 21 others injured, Fox News has learned.
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It seems that our President is of the opinion that terrorism is "the other guy's problem", COL Charles Williams. His vision is that he will be "the President that defeated terrorism in America" if he ignores it for just one more year. This thinking is both dangerous, and the groundwork for future attacks, and lost lives, on American soil. Only a new, strong, President will take the necessary steps to solve this problem.
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PO2 Mark Saffell
That wont be HRC. She already said no matter what ISIS does she will never send in troops.
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PO2 Mark Saffell
HRC Already said in an ABC News Interview the day before yesterday that there is NOTHING that will ever cause her to send in troops for ISIS. She basically said if I'm President you can do whatever you want and we wont come after you including killing Americans. So she said she will do the same as this President...ZERO to protect Americans. Heck he even invites more to come on in and kill more Americans.
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