Posted on Jun 16, 2015
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A Federal Judge has ruled that Iknoor Singh's adherence to his Sikh faith - wearing facial hair, keeping his hair long, but wrapped in a turban, and carrying a sharp knife on his person - would not diminish his capacity to serve the nation he loves, the United States of America, as a future Officer in the United States Army. Do you feel too many allowances are being made for his faith or do you feel he should be welcomed into the ranks if he can successfully fulfill the requirements for Commissioning? What say you, RP?
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MINEOLA, NY — A Sikh college student from New York said Monday he is excited about a federal court decision that will permit him to enroll in the U.S. Army's Reserve Officer Training Corps without shaving his beard, cutting his hair, or removing his turban.

U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson issued the ruling Friday in Washington, D.C., saying 20-year-old Iknoor Singh's adherence to his religious beliefs would not diminish his ability to serve in the military.

"I didn't believe it at first when I heard about the decision," said Singh, who lives in the New York City borough of Queens.

He told The Associated Press in a telephone interview Monday: "It was kind of surreal. This is something I have been fighting for for two or three years. I'm excited and nervous; very excited to learn."

Singh, who will be a junior next fall studying finance and business analytics at Hofstra University on Long Island, said he has had a lifelong interest in public service. He speaks four languages — English, Punjabi, Hindi, and Urdu — and he said he wants to work in military intelligence.

"Becoming an officer is not an easy thing," he conceded. "You have to be proficient in many areas."

Sikhism, a 500-year-old religion founded in India, requires its male followers to wear a turban and beard and keep their hair uncut.

Under a policy announced last year, troops can seek waivers on a case-by-case basis to wear religious clothing, seek prayer time or engage in religious practices. Approval depends on where the service member is stationed and whether the change would affect military readiness or the mission.

Currently, only a few Sikhs serve in the U.S. Army who have been granted religious accommodations.

In her ruling, Jackson said, "It is difficult to see how accommodating plaintiff's religious exercise would do greater damage to the Army's compelling interests in uniformity, discipline, credibility, unit cohesion, and training than the tens of thousands of medical shaving profiles the Army has already granted."

Army spokesman, Lt. Col. Ben Garrett, said in a statement the decision is currently being examined. "The Army takes pride in sustaining a culture where all personnel are treated with dignity and respect and not discriminated against based on race, color, religion, gender and national origin," he said.

Hofstra spokeswoman Karla Schuster said in a statement that the university "supports Mr. Singh's desire to serve his country, as well as his right to religious expression and practice. We are pleased that the courts have affirmed that he can do both as a member of the ROTC."

Gurjot Kaur, senior staff attorney for the Sikh Coalition, said the decision was "an important victory in the fight for religious freedom. We urge the Pentagon to eliminate the discriminatory loopholes in its policies and give all Americans an equal opportunity to serve in our nation's armed forces."

The American Civil Liberties Union and a group called United Sikhs jointly represented Singh in the case.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/sikh-student-queens-clear-join-army-rotc-article-1.2259423
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SPC Kevin Campbell Lopez
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Sikhs have a long history in the U.S. Army, dating all the way back to WWI. Though, I'm not saying they deserve special treatment, this issue should be treated as a religious issue, not political.
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Man, the times, they are a changing. When I went in I didn't shave yet. My DI took care of that by making me dry shave my peach fuzz. Now, they're going to allow special treatment to this guy so they won't get any flak about his religion and culture. He's going to have a mighty hot head during his 10 mile runs. Why the hell does he need to carry a knife on him? Let's bend all the damned rules for everyone and let our military be a free for all weirdos. I'm glad as hell IM not in anymore. I couldn't take this crap very long. I'd end up with a dishonorable and in jail. Things like this are what makes our Army Strong, Army Wrong.
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Ya I tried to skip a day in basic training, I was carrying around a razor in my pocket tied down to my button loop for a week.
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Ha! Ha! Very good comeback.
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MSgt Keith Hebert
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Question regarding all this
Are the Sikh that are on active in deployable positions and if so how do they handle that aspect of it
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They are, and they have deployed. In fact, there are others in this thread that attest to the fact that many soldiers are alive because of one of our Sikh doctors on active duty.
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MSgt Keith Hebert
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That is awesome
Something I did not know
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I'm all for you practicing your religion as a military member, so long as it adheres to uniforms regulations and the UCMJ. You join the military, and you're apart of something much greater than yourself. You give up the freedoms of self expression for the most part, including beards and long hair. Lord knows I'd love to grow my beard again, but what I serve for is much greater than that. Let him in within regs, or boot him.
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CPT Regina Osirus
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The courts have given him more than just a shaving pass.... He has the right to join ROTC... allowing the right to go all the way, he will contract as a cadet and commission as an officer. He will stand in front of a formation of soldiers dressed in that attire. .. Commanding their respect. AND! Enforcing discipline upon them when any one of them fail to operate WITHIN the boundaries of the Army Regulation, while he is operating outside of it.
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Furthermore a great point, Sir. How are they expecting a man to enforce regulations that he, himself has stepped beyond? I've always learned, lead by example and the fact that an Officer of the Armed Forces is going to be setting one that is far beyond regs is a little disturbing, to say the least. On a lighter note, I can hope that this brings a little consideration into allowing facial hair in the services again.
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So, every officer with a shaving waiver should be kicked out, right?

Also, we've already commissioned at least two Sikhs, back in 2010. And the last Sikh serving under the previous regulations didn't retire until 2009. Why would we want to prevent people from serving?
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No, I'm not saying we want to keep people from serving or kick out people who are currently serving, but if you're gonna waive someone for something, at least make it a uniform thing across the military. I just don't see how one can get up in front of a division or platoon and enforce regulations that they don't follow. I don't know how others don't see it this way, but it weighs in on my sense of right and wrong. It's like telling someone to obey the speed limit when you're always going twenty over.
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COL John Power
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The court wasn't making rules about a single individual. We have had military members of the Sikh faith in the Army for years and they were permitted to avoid the uniform appearance standards. I expect this is the first officer candidate. I am generally not in favor of this approach. There are any number of circumstances where certain attire and appearance are conditions of employment. I see this as just another. There are reasons for uniform standards. If those reasons make sense the courts, with no meaningful frame of reference, should stay out of it. It isn't their job to make such decisions and this judge simply got it wrong. Happens all the time. Hopefully the decision will be appealed and overturned. Probably came from the district in San Francisco!
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I suppose the operable phrase would be "If those reasons make sense". Seems to me it's hard to justify the thousands of shaving waivers, and the allowance of two Sikhs to commission in 2010, while saying this young man cannot participate in ROTC. It's also tough to justify why SOF guys don't have to shave in the field, but that Sikhs should be forced to against their deeply held religious beliefs.
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PFC Alex Rivers
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Unpopular opinion incoming.
I say good for him in seeking out what he truly wants to do without sacrificing his faith/beliefs.
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AB Charles Norris
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This is absolute crap. If he wants to join the military he needs to adhere to the guidelines and not change them. This isn't being backwards or intolerant. Once this happens people are going to try and change everything else and there will be no order in the military anymore.
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It would be a real shame if we allowed people to fight in our country's uniform while violating the regulations, eh?
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AB Charles Norris
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Deployed in the field is a different story and each FOB has different leniencies. Guaranteed stateside he is in regulations. As well as him not wearing any patches he is not normal military. Try again.
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Well, the objection is what, exactly? That he can't get a seal on his gas mask? And yet, we are willing to deploy people who have the same issue...seems to me that makes the gas mask argument kind of moot. So then it falls to, what, personal preference? We should enforce rigorously these standards, even when there is written guidance for exceptions, as long as guys are at home...but in the field, anything goes, because it's in the field?

Explain to me why this discipline you seek is any less necessary in the field.
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AB Charles Norris
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More of a response to local traditions. Possible availability of grooming issues when they are out for an extended period of time. There are to many variables to consider when deployed. Non deployed however should stay within regulations.
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I'm going to create a religion that one of the pillars of the faith is that I have to have a goatee and cannot shave it off.
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SPC Stephen Bartlett
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One code, for everyone, that's it ! Just like our government, our military has become a joke!
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SGT Carla Harper
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Sad but true.
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There is a code. It specifically allows for these exceptions.
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LTC Peter Hartman
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The military opened the door for this by changing its policy to allow for religious accommodations to the dress code.
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Changing it back, you mean...this was common until 1984.
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LTC Peter Hartman
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I went to basic in 87!
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