Posted on Jun 16, 2015
Sikh Wins Court Case To Join ROTC: Is this a victory for religious freedom or did the court go too far?
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A Federal Judge has ruled that Iknoor Singh's adherence to his Sikh faith - wearing facial hair, keeping his hair long, but wrapped in a turban, and carrying a sharp knife on his person - would not diminish his capacity to serve the nation he loves, the United States of America, as a future Officer in the United States Army. Do you feel too many allowances are being made for his faith or do you feel he should be welcomed into the ranks if he can successfully fulfill the requirements for Commissioning? What say you, RP?
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(Note: Full article added by RP Staff.)
MINEOLA, NY — A Sikh college student from New York said Monday he is excited about a federal court decision that will permit him to enroll in the U.S. Army's Reserve Officer Training Corps without shaving his beard, cutting his hair, or removing his turban.
U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson issued the ruling Friday in Washington, D.C., saying 20-year-old Iknoor Singh's adherence to his religious beliefs would not diminish his ability to serve in the military.
"I didn't believe it at first when I heard about the decision," said Singh, who lives in the New York City borough of Queens.
He told The Associated Press in a telephone interview Monday: "It was kind of surreal. This is something I have been fighting for for two or three years. I'm excited and nervous; very excited to learn."
Singh, who will be a junior next fall studying finance and business analytics at Hofstra University on Long Island, said he has had a lifelong interest in public service. He speaks four languages — English, Punjabi, Hindi, and Urdu — and he said he wants to work in military intelligence.
"Becoming an officer is not an easy thing," he conceded. "You have to be proficient in many areas."
Sikhism, a 500-year-old religion founded in India, requires its male followers to wear a turban and beard and keep their hair uncut.
Under a policy announced last year, troops can seek waivers on a case-by-case basis to wear religious clothing, seek prayer time or engage in religious practices. Approval depends on where the service member is stationed and whether the change would affect military readiness or the mission.
Currently, only a few Sikhs serve in the U.S. Army who have been granted religious accommodations.
In her ruling, Jackson said, "It is difficult to see how accommodating plaintiff's religious exercise would do greater damage to the Army's compelling interests in uniformity, discipline, credibility, unit cohesion, and training than the tens of thousands of medical shaving profiles the Army has already granted."
Army spokesman, Lt. Col. Ben Garrett, said in a statement the decision is currently being examined. "The Army takes pride in sustaining a culture where all personnel are treated with dignity and respect and not discriminated against based on race, color, religion, gender and national origin," he said.
Hofstra spokeswoman Karla Schuster said in a statement that the university "supports Mr. Singh's desire to serve his country, as well as his right to religious expression and practice. We are pleased that the courts have affirmed that he can do both as a member of the ROTC."
Gurjot Kaur, senior staff attorney for the Sikh Coalition, said the decision was "an important victory in the fight for religious freedom. We urge the Pentagon to eliminate the discriminatory loopholes in its policies and give all Americans an equal opportunity to serve in our nation's armed forces."
The American Civil Liberties Union and a group called United Sikhs jointly represented Singh in the case.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/sikh-student-queens-clear-join-army-rotc-article-1.2259423
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(Note: Full article added by RP Staff.)
MINEOLA, NY — A Sikh college student from New York said Monday he is excited about a federal court decision that will permit him to enroll in the U.S. Army's Reserve Officer Training Corps without shaving his beard, cutting his hair, or removing his turban.
U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson issued the ruling Friday in Washington, D.C., saying 20-year-old Iknoor Singh's adherence to his religious beliefs would not diminish his ability to serve in the military.
"I didn't believe it at first when I heard about the decision," said Singh, who lives in the New York City borough of Queens.
He told The Associated Press in a telephone interview Monday: "It was kind of surreal. This is something I have been fighting for for two or three years. I'm excited and nervous; very excited to learn."
Singh, who will be a junior next fall studying finance and business analytics at Hofstra University on Long Island, said he has had a lifelong interest in public service. He speaks four languages — English, Punjabi, Hindi, and Urdu — and he said he wants to work in military intelligence.
"Becoming an officer is not an easy thing," he conceded. "You have to be proficient in many areas."
Sikhism, a 500-year-old religion founded in India, requires its male followers to wear a turban and beard and keep their hair uncut.
Under a policy announced last year, troops can seek waivers on a case-by-case basis to wear religious clothing, seek prayer time or engage in religious practices. Approval depends on where the service member is stationed and whether the change would affect military readiness or the mission.
Currently, only a few Sikhs serve in the U.S. Army who have been granted religious accommodations.
In her ruling, Jackson said, "It is difficult to see how accommodating plaintiff's religious exercise would do greater damage to the Army's compelling interests in uniformity, discipline, credibility, unit cohesion, and training than the tens of thousands of medical shaving profiles the Army has already granted."
Army spokesman, Lt. Col. Ben Garrett, said in a statement the decision is currently being examined. "The Army takes pride in sustaining a culture where all personnel are treated with dignity and respect and not discriminated against based on race, color, religion, gender and national origin," he said.
Hofstra spokeswoman Karla Schuster said in a statement that the university "supports Mr. Singh's desire to serve his country, as well as his right to religious expression and practice. We are pleased that the courts have affirmed that he can do both as a member of the ROTC."
Gurjot Kaur, senior staff attorney for the Sikh Coalition, said the decision was "an important victory in the fight for religious freedom. We urge the Pentagon to eliminate the discriminatory loopholes in its policies and give all Americans an equal opportunity to serve in our nation's armed forces."
The American Civil Liberties Union and a group called United Sikhs jointly represented Singh in the case.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/sikh-student-queens-clear-join-army-rotc-article-1.2259423
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Responses: 282
The British have had Sikhs serve for over a 100 years. They figured out how to be inclusive so why can't we?
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CPT Quentin von Éfáns-Taráfdar
Because the British had an empire to maintain thus they had to use native troops . The US has no such empire.
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SPC Dr. Ernest Rockwell
SSG Bryan Van Hoose - That's odd. The Orthodox Jews in Israel have been sealing their masks just fine for decades...with beards. Next excuse?
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SSG Bryan Van Hoose
Well there Dr, it's one of the RULES AND REGULATIONS set forth by the military, further, our POS mask will not seal with a beard, grow one and try it or shut up. I don't give two flying @$^%$@'s what Israeli's have been doing for decades, this discussion isn't about them, it's about why we should even allow an exception to the rule. I'm retired now and don't care if he is active duty or not, rules are rules and the OP asked why it was a big deal. Stay in your lane.
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My concern is applicability and where the line will be drawn. There are also religions that have significant followings that practice the taking of mind altering psychedelic drugs as part of worship (Rastafarians, Native Americans, Native Latin Americans) Will the army change that policy as well? What about ritual piercings, tattoos, scarring etc. Will dred locks be permitted? How about Christians who take vow of Nazerene and refuse to cut their hair? Will that be allowed? I am not trying to be a negative nelly. Where will the line be drawn? Will it be decided as this was, through litigation alone? Christians have reportedly been corrected and disciplined for having bibles or crosses displayed. The same tolerance must be extended to perceived majority as perceived or actual (smaller population (minority).
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I have a great question here....
I am Scottish by ethnicity. I want to be allowed to wear my KILT with my Dress Blue Jacket, as part of my Uniform.
I am NOT, Contrary to Popular Belief an "Anglo" I am a CELT and I demand an accommodation to wear a KILT in Uniform....Yeah right, I'll keep you informed as to how that works for me.
Glad I am retired.
I am Scottish by ethnicity. I want to be allowed to wear my KILT with my Dress Blue Jacket, as part of my Uniform.
I am NOT, Contrary to Popular Belief an "Anglo" I am a CELT and I demand an accommodation to wear a KILT in Uniform....Yeah right, I'll keep you informed as to how that works for me.
Glad I am retired.
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MSG (Join to see)
I knew I liked you for a reason! My mom was born in Edinburgh and she was a Burns-Newton! Awesome Laddy!
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This is an all volunteer Army so if you want to join you should have to follow same rules as everyone else.
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We have standards for a reason. We need to stop lowering the bar - if someone doesn't meet the standards, they should not be allowed in.
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I thought this issue had been ruled with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhs_in_the_United_States_military (YES I HATE CITING WIKI)
Sikhs in the United States military - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
There have been Sikhs in the United States military as far back as World War I. Sikhs have served through all subsequent wars up until the present day. Since the 1980s, observant Sikhs have faced difficulty in serving due to a discontinuation of exemptions to uniform standards which previously allowed Sikhs to maintain their religiously-mandated beards and turbans while in uniform.
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If he has the courage to fight for the right to serve our country, that is enough for me welcome him into our ranks with open arms. Good Luck, Cadet!
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I don't see the issue with this. If his faith requires it and is un bending on the issue so be it. My faith requires men to have beards as well, however, we can request dispensation for certain reasons such as as police, military, fire rescue and such. When I was in I followed the regulations. Since I retired I grew my beard back. My faith is rooted in my belief in Christ not my outward appearance. As for NBC/CBR concerns; when was the last time any of you found yourselves in a NBC environment outside of training???
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SSG Martin Reyna
I believe that the policy should not be altered. But I am out of the military and have very little pull in the government.
To answer to your last question.
Buritz, Iraq 2004
To answer to your last question.
Buritz, Iraq 2004
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CPO Gregory Smith
I was in AL Asad in 2004. We carried our mask but the rest of out MOPP gear was warehoused. In 7 months we did one drill to figure out how long it would take to hand out.
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CPO Gregory Smith
Was Buried where they were having the chlorine attacks? That's what caused us to run the drill.
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SSG Bryan Van Hoose
CPO Smith the last time I spent time in an NBC environment was in 2003 right before "Chemical Ali" was terminated. Every day, for a month - CODE PURPLE. Now if chemical weapons were no longer an issue, I think the military can revise the rules a bit, it's time to revise anyway in a LOT of areas. Start with uniform and appearance and move to height and weight standards. Men and women of this nation are no longer built like they were in the 1950's and our height / weight system is antiquated.
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SGT Christina Wilder
SSG I have been in my lane. No one was commenting on Soec Ops, rather a Sikh. Don't be hateful.
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Again I say we Americans are so uptight about rules and regulations it's not funny I myself look to the character of the person and what I know of Sikhs is that they are loyal and faithful and courageous warriors
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