Posted on Jun 16, 2015
Sikh Wins Court Case To Join ROTC: Is this a victory for religious freedom or did the court go too far?
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A Federal Judge has ruled that Iknoor Singh's adherence to his Sikh faith - wearing facial hair, keeping his hair long, but wrapped in a turban, and carrying a sharp knife on his person - would not diminish his capacity to serve the nation he loves, the United States of America, as a future Officer in the United States Army. Do you feel too many allowances are being made for his faith or do you feel he should be welcomed into the ranks if he can successfully fulfill the requirements for Commissioning? What say you, RP?
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(Note: Full article added by RP Staff.)
MINEOLA, NY — A Sikh college student from New York said Monday he is excited about a federal court decision that will permit him to enroll in the U.S. Army's Reserve Officer Training Corps without shaving his beard, cutting his hair, or removing his turban.
U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson issued the ruling Friday in Washington, D.C., saying 20-year-old Iknoor Singh's adherence to his religious beliefs would not diminish his ability to serve in the military.
"I didn't believe it at first when I heard about the decision," said Singh, who lives in the New York City borough of Queens.
He told The Associated Press in a telephone interview Monday: "It was kind of surreal. This is something I have been fighting for for two or three years. I'm excited and nervous; very excited to learn."
Singh, who will be a junior next fall studying finance and business analytics at Hofstra University on Long Island, said he has had a lifelong interest in public service. He speaks four languages — English, Punjabi, Hindi, and Urdu — and he said he wants to work in military intelligence.
"Becoming an officer is not an easy thing," he conceded. "You have to be proficient in many areas."
Sikhism, a 500-year-old religion founded in India, requires its male followers to wear a turban and beard and keep their hair uncut.
Under a policy announced last year, troops can seek waivers on a case-by-case basis to wear religious clothing, seek prayer time or engage in religious practices. Approval depends on where the service member is stationed and whether the change would affect military readiness or the mission.
Currently, only a few Sikhs serve in the U.S. Army who have been granted religious accommodations.
In her ruling, Jackson said, "It is difficult to see how accommodating plaintiff's religious exercise would do greater damage to the Army's compelling interests in uniformity, discipline, credibility, unit cohesion, and training than the tens of thousands of medical shaving profiles the Army has already granted."
Army spokesman, Lt. Col. Ben Garrett, said in a statement the decision is currently being examined. "The Army takes pride in sustaining a culture where all personnel are treated with dignity and respect and not discriminated against based on race, color, religion, gender and national origin," he said.
Hofstra spokeswoman Karla Schuster said in a statement that the university "supports Mr. Singh's desire to serve his country, as well as his right to religious expression and practice. We are pleased that the courts have affirmed that he can do both as a member of the ROTC."
Gurjot Kaur, senior staff attorney for the Sikh Coalition, said the decision was "an important victory in the fight for religious freedom. We urge the Pentagon to eliminate the discriminatory loopholes in its policies and give all Americans an equal opportunity to serve in our nation's armed forces."
The American Civil Liberties Union and a group called United Sikhs jointly represented Singh in the case.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/sikh-student-queens-clear-join-army-rotc-article-1.2259423
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(Note: Full article added by RP Staff.)
MINEOLA, NY — A Sikh college student from New York said Monday he is excited about a federal court decision that will permit him to enroll in the U.S. Army's Reserve Officer Training Corps without shaving his beard, cutting his hair, or removing his turban.
U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson issued the ruling Friday in Washington, D.C., saying 20-year-old Iknoor Singh's adherence to his religious beliefs would not diminish his ability to serve in the military.
"I didn't believe it at first when I heard about the decision," said Singh, who lives in the New York City borough of Queens.
He told The Associated Press in a telephone interview Monday: "It was kind of surreal. This is something I have been fighting for for two or three years. I'm excited and nervous; very excited to learn."
Singh, who will be a junior next fall studying finance and business analytics at Hofstra University on Long Island, said he has had a lifelong interest in public service. He speaks four languages — English, Punjabi, Hindi, and Urdu — and he said he wants to work in military intelligence.
"Becoming an officer is not an easy thing," he conceded. "You have to be proficient in many areas."
Sikhism, a 500-year-old religion founded in India, requires its male followers to wear a turban and beard and keep their hair uncut.
Under a policy announced last year, troops can seek waivers on a case-by-case basis to wear religious clothing, seek prayer time or engage in religious practices. Approval depends on where the service member is stationed and whether the change would affect military readiness or the mission.
Currently, only a few Sikhs serve in the U.S. Army who have been granted religious accommodations.
In her ruling, Jackson said, "It is difficult to see how accommodating plaintiff's religious exercise would do greater damage to the Army's compelling interests in uniformity, discipline, credibility, unit cohesion, and training than the tens of thousands of medical shaving profiles the Army has already granted."
Army spokesman, Lt. Col. Ben Garrett, said in a statement the decision is currently being examined. "The Army takes pride in sustaining a culture where all personnel are treated with dignity and respect and not discriminated against based on race, color, religion, gender and national origin," he said.
Hofstra spokeswoman Karla Schuster said in a statement that the university "supports Mr. Singh's desire to serve his country, as well as his right to religious expression and practice. We are pleased that the courts have affirmed that he can do both as a member of the ROTC."
Gurjot Kaur, senior staff attorney for the Sikh Coalition, said the decision was "an important victory in the fight for religious freedom. We urge the Pentagon to eliminate the discriminatory loopholes in its policies and give all Americans an equal opportunity to serve in our nation's armed forces."
The American Civil Liberties Union and a group called United Sikhs jointly represented Singh in the case.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/sikh-student-queens-clear-join-army-rotc-article-1.2259423
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The year 1961. An airman was granted a wavier to grow a beard because his hometown was celebrating a centennial.
Waivers are NOT something new.
Waivers are NOT something new.
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SPC Carson S.
But that was a waiver for a one-time deal, something that would be corrected once the centennial celebration was over; this is something that would be forever (unless his religious convictions change). He is being granted a permanent deviation from the military standard, a standard which has been set not only for aesthetics, (in the military, conformity is beauty) but also for safety reasons. How is he going to function in an NBC environment?
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Sikhs have served for years and have been permitted their beards. In the mid 70s it was accepted that a carrying a picture of a knife would fulfill their religious obligations. Apparently that has now changed.
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Maj Mike Sciales
The Navy allowed beards ashore under Adm Zumwalt in the 70s. No naval vessels were lost or damaged as a result of his actions. In fairness, I should report two clean shaven sailors did sink a Special Boat Unit insertion craft at Rodman Naval Station, Panama, by not putting in some plugs while they replaced some outboard/inboard muffling system pieces. Some clean shaven sailors also did run the USS Nathanial Greene into an underwater sea mount in the Irish Sea in the mid 80s and killed it. Also, zero soldiers have died as a result of not getting a good fit on their gas mask, so I'm not comfortable that beards are a huge problem.
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He wants to serve his country. Who cares if he wears a turban and does not shave. Instead of these single court cases the DOD should allow all Sikhs to join and look at any other religious or cultural thing that would open up the ranks to more patriotic Americans. And for those who suddenly want to wear a colander on their head or smoke dope because of religion, we know you are bullshitting.
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As a service member he needs to follow the dress code that is set by the military.
With him getting by with his uniform changes why the hell can't other troops
change there uniform to what they say is there religion.
I am sorry he needs to wear the uniform correctly or find another way to serve
our great nation. This could open a whole lot shit thats not needed at this time.
With him getting by with his uniform changes why the hell can't other troops
change there uniform to what they say is there religion.
I am sorry he needs to wear the uniform correctly or find another way to serve
our great nation. This could open a whole lot shit thats not needed at this time.
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No. You conform to the military, the military doesn't conform to you. If he wishes to serve the country that he loves, there are other avenues. Ones that don't compromise the integrity of the whole for the needs of the few.
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Personally I find this court ruling to be complete garbage. You enlist and agree to be bound by all military regulations like AR 670-1. They would not cave to Christian religious norms, so why is this different? This is another prime example of our legal system under the current administration selectively choosing what to enforce according to the political climate.
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The military today (all services) is completely lost with customs, courtesy, and discipline. The idea is for everyone to be the same and not one individual or individuals stand out. You train to fight not pray. Give the soldiers of today to us old guys and we will show them what it's like to be in the real military of old. If you wouldn't mind keep the brown nosing politicians in Washington, D.C. while we put the military back together for you. Once were done don't let them slip back to the military they are today. With all these religious favors you do for the soldier of today it is a wonder they get anything done!!
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Nothing new we had them in my OBC class in 2010. The guy did well and had no issues. He did everything required of him.
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CH (CPT) (Join to see)
Right. And this dude speaks 4 languages and wants to go into intelligence. I could spend the rest of my career trying to reach his level of competency and still fall short. I hope he turns out to be a 300+ PT stud too.
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CH (CPT) (Join to see) - Seems like the kind of person we should be recruiting, not the kind of person we should be trying to turn away.
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I understand if you have a religion that says you have to wear this, etc., however when you decide that you want to join the military you understand that there are requirements based on your appearance.
Rules should not be changed for anything, aside maybe health reasons.
Rules should not be changed for anything, aside maybe health reasons.
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Questions regarding the fitting of this prospective future Leader's protective gear aside, I am happy for him, and happy whenever these days the Federal Courts side with the protection of religious freedoms in the Armed Forces. Religious freedoms in the military are under unprecedented assault from all directions. If this case helps keep the wolves at bay for the majority Christian believers in uniform, I am all for it. Let Mikey Weinstien and his Military Religious Freedom Foundation choke on this guys beliefs for awhile!
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Major Hoiland,
Why did we have a Revolutionary War many centeries ago? Based on Freedom of what? Our beliefs in our freedom of speech, of religion, the right to own arms and just freedom period has changed so much in the last 100 hundred years. For what, look I don't know about the Army Regulations, but I do know the Marine Corps and this will not fly. He will look pretty funny wearing his hard hat. JK
Why did we have a Revolutionary War many centeries ago? Based on Freedom of what? Our beliefs in our freedom of speech, of religion, the right to own arms and just freedom period has changed so much in the last 100 hundred years. For what, look I don't know about the Army Regulations, but I do know the Marine Corps and this will not fly. He will look pretty funny wearing his hard hat. JK
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GySgt William Hardy
I have served with a Sikh and have no problems with the modifications. Back in the early 90s my instructor in a MI class I was taking was an American Sikh and held a TS clearance. I had no problem with them serving with him. The Sikhs who are from the South Asia served the British Empire as soldiers and have a long history of being soldiers. I feel that in the case of Sikhs, the Court should rule in their favor. They pose no threat to anyone.
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