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https://youtu.be/OL9cpxuN7NY
Scott Kelly is interviewed about the psychological effects of living on the International Space Station for one year (340 days). What are you thoughts on an endeavor of this magnitude?
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CPT Pedro Meza
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Why spend money going to Mars, those that want to go should put their money up and not our tax money.
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SN Greg Wright
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CPT (Join to see) - CPT Pedro Meza I call bs. There are single asteroids out there that are worth more than the entire economic output of the human race since inception. It may cost trillions to go get them, but the returns are far, far too great to just leave sitting there. You can bet it's going to happen.
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CPT Pedro Meza
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SN Greg Wright - But you are suggesting that tax money is used to get at those asteroids, then what, who makes the money, because our government is not permitted to compete against business.
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SN Greg Wright
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CPT Pedro Meza - I hear you, but the point is that a NASA mission to Mars would most certainly contribute tech to the eventual corporate endeavors that are certainly going to be the impetus for human diaspora into the Solar System.
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CPT Pedro Meza
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SN Greg Wright - As long as the government also profits and uses those profits to pay and fund space exploration by paying for dreamers and makers to offer their ideas of space propulsion.
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Capt Tom Brown
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Don't think anyone is gonna be around long enough to enjoy any possible benefits on down the road.
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SN Greg Wright
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Why not?
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CPT Pedro Meza
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Tom and all fairness you mean you and I, cause we got some young folks here on RP that maybe the ones that invent new propulsion or travel to Mars. Example look at our generation and Star Trek.
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Capt Tom Brown
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CPT Pedro Meza - Exactly what I meant to say..
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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Pls understand, I realize that project might not work, I just found it thought provoking, I'd mentioned it on here before....
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/GLAST/news/fermi-thunderstorms.html

I think this is actually fairly compelling sci justification....
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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http://www.spacewarpdynamicsllc.com/

This is the related site, I assure you, the science seems quite real, I'll send why in cpl mins....
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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CPT (Join to see) The folks I worked with on the Space Shuttle program were as dedicated to the Space program, as I was. The technologies being developed will help us with problems on our own planet.

https://spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2008/tech_benefits.html
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Thank you for this information. Space exploration creates new markets and technologies as mentioned in the link. In your experience, is colonization of the moon a prerequisite for spaceflight to Mars, and is it logistically sustainable?
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CPT (Join to see) - Sir, my experience was strictly with the Space Shuttle, and a little bit with the Space Station. Testing out new technologies on the Moon, make sense, and is logistically sustainable because of the proximity. Meanwhile, we will develop advanced propulsion systems, that will make a trip to Mars more than a dream. Logistics will be difficult, but will become easier as we gain experience.
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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I understand why such a thing wouid be contemplated. However, I think it wholly absurd regardless of its popularity, as a prospective ambition. First, I'd seen considerable material relating to serious cumulative long term radiation damage to even just the Apollo astronauts. Second, I think lunar colonization very def should go first, and needs to be done, I depth, before even contemplating Mars. Third, the sheer level of software development needed for such a human spaceflight, and the needed craft, is, in my view, wholly beyond reach at present, and, until lunar colonization succeeds, routinely, without any possible major incidents for a fairly protracted period, is, to my way of thinking, merest sci fi fantasy. Ambitious? Certainly. Laudable? Obviously. Realistic? To my mind, regardless of what social good might be achieved, which, I of course, would admit, total nonsense. I wish I could say I thought otherwise, however, I've been reading that whole Gerard K O'Neill thing for decades now, as he planned human colonies, and the human race barely manages to get one extremely limited habitate up, after Skylab. That, and the whole manned orbiting lab or MOL project before that, as some here may have read of, or seen documentaries about. Arthur C Clarke wrote 2001 decades ago, Stanley Kubrick filmed it a few yrs later, and the whole thing is still merest fantasy decades later, with only minimal progress toward anything even vaguely reminiscent of any level of comparable achievement to that which the book and film proposed. Then there was that worried fantasy about Mars with Gary Sinise, and the film about Mars with Val Kilmer, Terrence Stamp, and Tom Sizemore, which, if fantastic, I certainly found at least somewhat slightly more credible, though not by much. The recent Matt Damon film about Mars, I likewise consider comparable fantasy. There won't, I think, be a human Mars flight for at least another century if not longer. The Moon is only 250K miles away, and hasnt been gone back to since Apollo 17; Skylab augured in out of orbit, as I recall yrs ago, the shuttle program is long gone as museum pieces, and the present station, id read, also won't last forever, eventually, it'll augur in also, as it's orbit deteriorates, I think. Sending a robot to dig up some soil while a fantastic achievement, using the balloons for the landing, while brilliant, hardly compares in any remote fashion to a human Mars spaceflight. Before my present unfortunate total perm disability, I'd done considerable research in areas tangential to such topics, have met two Apollo astronauts albeit yrs ago, one while I was at USAF OTS, one yrs later after I'd gotten off active. I've read for yrs on the whole topic, studies much related to it, and was on active when the enterprise shuttle was dropped off the 747. Truly, I wish such an ambition weren't merest fantasy, in my view, however, I honestly think it is, at least for many, many decades yet to come, laudable ambition notwithstanding. I realize I'll be disagreed with, and my thoughts are of course my own, however, that is quite honestly the conclusion I've reached after yrs of trying to seriously study the entire topic, honest, hope this was at least of some interest, I'm not meaning to discourage, however, I do think I have some inkling of what I'm speaking of here, and I'd be remiss, in my view, to not try to inject, however that might deflate ambitions of those here, at least some note of comparative reality into such a topic, if nothing else, many thanks. I'd love it to happen, and for me to be wrong, honest, however I'm abs convinced it won't, and that I'm also, unfortunately, right, many thanks once again.
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Yes.
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SGT, why or why not?
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CPT (Join to see) - I think space exploration has helped us all to advance technologically.
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Capt Daniel Goodman
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Sorry for typos, this tablet is often querulous. I'd meant that horrid sci-fi fantasy film with Gary Sinise about Mars. I found it entertaining fiction, albeit wholly absurd fantasy, I'm afraid.
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