Posted on Feb 25, 2015
Should nicotine products be banned on VA property?
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Currently e-cigs are only banned for residents of VA Domiciliaries and Community Living Centers, but not tobacco cigarettes, cigars, dip, snuff, snus or chewing tobacco. I've seen LOTS of Veterans using e-cigs at the VA in the smoking areas including VA Police. Personally I don't feel that it is fair to single out just one form of nicotine delivery when the others are accepted for use in the Doms and CLCs. Now I'm not saying that electronic cigarettes are safe however I don't think many rational people would argue that electronic cigarettes are more dangerous than other methods of nicotine delivery. Lets compare tobacco cigarettes to electronic cigarettes.
Tobacco cigarettes produce smoke which contains tar, nicotine, 63 carcinogens and well over 4000 added chemicals.
Electronic cigarettes produce water vapor and the liquids in them contain vegetable glycerin (which is FDA approved for human consumption), propylene glycol (used in fog machines that are sold in novelty stores, used in movies and theater and is approved by both the FDA and Screen Actor's Guild to be breathed in by humans), natural and artificial flavors (that are used in most all of the food we eat and FDA approved) and varying levels of nicotine ranging from 0 - 3.6%.
Now, nicotine is considered a carcinogen, but 1 compared to 63.
The Domiciliary is considered a treatment facility for drugs/alcohol and mental health, and drugs and alcohol are expressly prohibited as they should be. The rationales that I have heard are that drugs could be ingested via the vapor production of electronic cigarettes, and that electronic cigarettes are not approved by the FDA. The residents of the Domiciliaries are subject to random drug testing. If someone were so inclined they could easily put drugs into their dip or tobacco cigarettes to be used as a medium to facilitate their drug use. No matter what the delivery method, you can't stop someone from using drugs or alcohol if they are determined to do so. Also while electronic cigarettes are not approved by the FDA, neither are other nicotine delivery mediums, they are simply regulated.
I personally don't feel that users of electronic cigarettes should have their preferred method of nicotine delivery banned when all other forms are allowed.
What do you think?
Tobacco cigarettes produce smoke which contains tar, nicotine, 63 carcinogens and well over 4000 added chemicals.
Electronic cigarettes produce water vapor and the liquids in them contain vegetable glycerin (which is FDA approved for human consumption), propylene glycol (used in fog machines that are sold in novelty stores, used in movies and theater and is approved by both the FDA and Screen Actor's Guild to be breathed in by humans), natural and artificial flavors (that are used in most all of the food we eat and FDA approved) and varying levels of nicotine ranging from 0 - 3.6%.
Now, nicotine is considered a carcinogen, but 1 compared to 63.
The Domiciliary is considered a treatment facility for drugs/alcohol and mental health, and drugs and alcohol are expressly prohibited as they should be. The rationales that I have heard are that drugs could be ingested via the vapor production of electronic cigarettes, and that electronic cigarettes are not approved by the FDA. The residents of the Domiciliaries are subject to random drug testing. If someone were so inclined they could easily put drugs into their dip or tobacco cigarettes to be used as a medium to facilitate their drug use. No matter what the delivery method, you can't stop someone from using drugs or alcohol if they are determined to do so. Also while electronic cigarettes are not approved by the FDA, neither are other nicotine delivery mediums, they are simply regulated.
I personally don't feel that users of electronic cigarettes should have their preferred method of nicotine delivery banned when all other forms are allowed.
What do you think?
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Seems a little backward that they would allow something known to cause cancer, but not something that isn't shown to (keep in mind, they are still "new" and this is coming from a vaper). I can understand not allowing it indoors, as that might be unfair, but if you can smoke on campus, you should also be allowed to vape.
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