Posted on Jun 2, 2016
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It seems more often than not, in units I have been a part of, that awards are more often based upon good conduct rather than actual achievements. Is this commonplace in other units? What are you thoughts on how much of a role good conduct should be given when the award is not solely based on good conduct?
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SSG Roger Ayscue
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That is so very much better than having them be based upon rank. The first MSM I was put in for was when I was in 2d Infantry Division, Korea. The Division CSM kicked it back (How he had a say in it I never understood, as the person that put it in was Division Chief of Staff, a Full Colonel). The Buck slip on the award said "Staff Sergeants do not get MSMs in my Division". Far far too often Awards are based on rank not performance.
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MSG Pat Colby
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Not necessarily Good Conduct, but Rank always played a big role.
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SGT Joshua Strup
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I always had a problem with rank being a factor. Awards should be given for the achievements they represent, without the influence of the number of stripes the awardee wears.
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MSG Pat Colby
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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MSG Pat Colby - I suspect you are Spot On, on that Assessment.
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SSG Roderick Smith
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Like SSG Roger Ayscue said, I would rather it be conduct and performance than rank. I was told to write my own award when I left Fort Sill. I had been there for 6 years, and worked 7 different duty positions in different specialties. One was even a MSG position. I never had any issues, and not to toot my own horn, but I thought my performance was outstanding. So I wrote myself a solid, truthful 638 for an MSM. It was sent up to the Garrison CSM, who kicked it back because "SSGs don't get MSMs". I pushed the issue and got nowhere of course. However, in lieu of an MSM... I got two ARCOMs.

For a PCS.

TWO ARCOM PCS AWARDS.

So yeah... if nothing else, I wish leaders just went by the regs, and not just their ways of thinking. This is how programs get broken (looking at you, NCOERS).
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SSG Roger Ayscue
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Preach it Brother
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