Posted on Mar 20, 2015
Should active duty military be used to secure the borders and ensure the safety of our nation?
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On my list of problems besetting American progress, rampant illegal immigration is near the bottom.
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The ROE for the border patrol are a joke. A number of border patrol officers have been assaulted with rocks. What makes anyone think that the politicians (who make policy) will change those ROE just because the Military is on the border?
Until we have some sanity as relates to ROE and immigration I see no reason to put our soldiers into such a situation. Clearly, neither this administration, nor many previous has any REAL desire to secure the border, or they would have taken action to do so.
This administration won't even allow the Border States to enforce laws already on the books. It is my belief that our military should be used to kill bad guys and break all their stuff. We shouldn't be tied up on the border doing the job of Local, State, and Federal Border agencies. As much as I believe most of our Federal police agencies have no Constitutional standing, the Border patrol may be an exception as it IS the Federal government's job to secure borders. That being said, there is NO reason State and local law enforcement agencies shouldn't be proactively involved.
Lastly, there's nothing stopping the Border State's Governors from deploying THEIR National Guard troops to patrol the border..... except for the fact that they ALL want Federal funding to do so.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/07/border-patrol-shooting-restrictions_n_4922598.html
Until we have some sanity as relates to ROE and immigration I see no reason to put our soldiers into such a situation. Clearly, neither this administration, nor many previous has any REAL desire to secure the border, or they would have taken action to do so.
This administration won't even allow the Border States to enforce laws already on the books. It is my belief that our military should be used to kill bad guys and break all their stuff. We shouldn't be tied up on the border doing the job of Local, State, and Federal Border agencies. As much as I believe most of our Federal police agencies have no Constitutional standing, the Border patrol may be an exception as it IS the Federal government's job to secure borders. That being said, there is NO reason State and local law enforcement agencies shouldn't be proactively involved.
Lastly, there's nothing stopping the Border State's Governors from deploying THEIR National Guard troops to patrol the border..... except for the fact that they ALL want Federal funding to do so.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/07/border-patrol-shooting-restrictions_n_4922598.html
Border Patrol Restricts Shooting At Rock Throwers
Border Patrol agents will face new restrictions on its ability to shoot at people who throw rocks, the agency’s chief said Friday. The new policy marks a reversal from Border Patrol Chief Mi
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IF--and a BIG if at that--If our military needs to secure our borders, it should be comprised of members of each border state's national guard.
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SGT (Join to see)
This ^. That and the National Guard already goes on missions with the border patrol, it's a great opportunity for Guard members.
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Sgt S.P. Woodke
Talk to border patrol they're NO where's near the border in Texas AZ or CA - 30 miles average
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SGT (Join to see)
They have stations much closer, and they actually patrol along the border. I've got friends in the border patrol and friends in the National Guard who have gone on border surveillance missions with them.
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That is why we have the National Guard and Department of Homeland Defense for that mission.
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Sounds like a job for the National Guard. I guess the NG could be considered active duty. But I think we should increase the members of the National Guard leaving full time active duty military to take care of the threats outside the US.
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SGT (Join to see)
The national Guard has been used in the last decades to support active duty military operations abroad more and more, which - as a National Guard soldier - I am grateful for, but we still perform operations domestically as we did before. Fact is the Guard is friggin HUGE.
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I totally agree with active duty protecting the borders. I've said for years that to fix the problem we should treat the border like we treat the DMZ in Korea. Mine it and they will not come! They would have to respect the legal channels at this point or it would at least encourage legal border crossings.
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We were created to defend our country against all enemies foreign and domestic. It only seems fitting that we should help defend our physical borders.
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