Posted on Apr 30, 2014
Seniors (NCO's/O's/WO's), have you ever had to challenge your rater/Senior rater (non combative)
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I had a Senior Rater downgrade my deployment award from Bronze to ARCOM and attempt to give me 2's on my NCOER.
My rater told me that if I disagreed, I would have to talk to my SR, to which I said sure.
I approached him with respect, and asked him to help me understand. He said that he did it because we were always at odds.
Which, most of the times was true, so I asked to point out situations where I did not do the job correctly, or exceeded standards.
One example was when he told me that I lost some pulleys. Those pulleys were welded to a flag pole when we purchased the thing, and the pole had being set on concrete. So no, I didn't loosed them.
Another one was when he emailed me to purchase some books. When he looked for the email, he realized that he emailed everyone but me, so I never found out of the instructions until he told me that day.
Bottom line, he gave me two more examples, to which I easily showed him that he was wrong.
My SR changed my NCOER and gave me 1's, but still kept my ARCOM even though I performed above and beyond.
I did not care for the award so much if they had not given ARCOMs to 6 Soldiers and 1 NCO caught drunk while in that deployment. I would have rather not to receive an award at all. But, I choose my fights.
My rater told me that if I disagreed, I would have to talk to my SR, to which I said sure.
I approached him with respect, and asked him to help me understand. He said that he did it because we were always at odds.
Which, most of the times was true, so I asked to point out situations where I did not do the job correctly, or exceeded standards.
One example was when he told me that I lost some pulleys. Those pulleys were welded to a flag pole when we purchased the thing, and the pole had being set on concrete. So no, I didn't loosed them.
Another one was when he emailed me to purchase some books. When he looked for the email, he realized that he emailed everyone but me, so I never found out of the instructions until he told me that day.
Bottom line, he gave me two more examples, to which I easily showed him that he was wrong.
My SR changed my NCOER and gave me 1's, but still kept my ARCOM even though I performed above and beyond.
I did not care for the award so much if they had not given ARCOMs to 6 Soldiers and 1 NCO caught drunk while in that deployment. I would have rather not to receive an award at all. But, I choose my fights.
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MSG, thank you so much for that reply. I'm a firm believer in standing by your guns and being the voice of reason.
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MSG Jose Colon
You have to pick your fights, so an award is no big deal, but an NCOER, if you have gone above and beyond, you should speak up.
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