Posted on May 17, 2014
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I signed an initial counseling recently that seemed a bit off. One part said the you'll have a record APFT within 30 days of arrival. That's all well and good. But then it says if you fail, you'll receive another record APFT within 1 to 15 days. Another part of the counseling stated two failed records is grounds for chapter (which is true.) However, according to reg, if a Soldier fails a record, they have to be given 90 days, and if a record is given prior to that deadline, there must be a request in writing by the SM and authorized by the CO.

As a team leader, I want to ensure my Soldiers know their rights and the regs so they don't get hemmed up under false pretenses. I did legal actions in my last unit and Soldiers often didn't know the rules themselves, and wouldn't take advantage of the assistance provided to them. Is there grounds to go higher with this concern? How would you address this, or would you at all?
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SGT Michael Glenn
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Depends on where your stationed. I know Ar is doctrine in MOST places, but if your in a foreign country like Germany you fall under USAREUR regulations that wind up superseding AR regs when the chain wants them to and dont when it serves the command better that way, bunch of bull you ask me as its literally impossible for a soldier to really get a grasp on what you can an cannot do.
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Am I off here, I though you had to pass a PT test to get out of basic training? If that is the case where is the problem.

I do agree that there has to be some remedial PT in there to correct the deficiencies from the first PT test and then have the requisite time in order to re-test.

If you can't pass the PT test I don't know what to tell you besides to do more PT.
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SGT Brian Gibbs
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Yes... address this with your NCO. Don't sign anything in the military that seems off or you know its incorrect. I was part of a unit that thought they could make up their own amendments to the regulations. If you know your regulations its your responsibility to make sure these issues are corrected so that other soldiers aren't affected by the mistake.
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