Posted on May 28, 2015
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I earned my EIB in 1989. It was an individual skill, timed test of 29 Infantry skill level 1 and 2 tasks completed over a 4 day period. The new test involves an individual tactical scenario in which Soldiers perform tasks while moving through the scenario. I have not seen the new test in action and was wondering which test you think is better and why?
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SFC Mark Merino
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I'm old school too. I didn't know they made changes like that. I figured the toys just changed. Back then, the big killer was requesting permission to enter the net. Good luck even explaining that these days.
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SGT Richard H.
SGT Richard H.
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Another one of the big killers as I recall was Headspace and Timing on the M2 50 Cal
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When I earned my EIB in 2013, the No-Go process was quite different. We were allowed to have 2.5 No-Gos PER LANE, so a total of 7.5. The half No-Go was for a decision task, of which there were 2 per lane. So long as you did not get 3 or more No-Gos on a lane you were good to go. In my honest opinion that was far to easy. I received 5.5 No-Gos (of which I should have protested 3, but it did not matter). This was also when they began switching to the more outcome based test, where as long as the task was completed, baring safety violations, you were good to go. Some cadre still enforced the strict, by the book, answers (hence my 3 protests). I believe that this was far to easy to pass, and not completely the direction EIB should go.
However the way it is this year, 3 total No-Gos and you are done, or fail a MST task two times, or bust time on the mission portion, is much to hard. I believe that keeping the lane No-Gos separate from the MST is more ideal. Three total No-Gos on the lane = you are done. Same with the time limit, which is based of the cadre validation process and should be easy to complete. The MST No-Go two times on the same task should also apply, but those should not apply to the lane count. To balance that out, if you receive a No-Go at each MST task, so three on that lane, then you are also out. I believe that this is a more balanced grading scheme, and will help decrease the abysmal failure rate, which currently only 5% of candidates pass (I am not positive on this percentage, I just know that it in the single digits). I am not advocating making it easier, but it certainly needs to at least be attainable.
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SGT Richard H.
SGT Richard H.
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3 total No-Go's is how I remember it from the late 80's. I would agree with your assessment that 3 PER LANE would be ridiculously easy.
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SFC Mark Merino
SFC Mark Merino
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Blade runner for life!
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1SG Jason Smith
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I earned my EIB under the old system of testing. I did watch and participate in the new standards in other units I served with. I do not think one is easier than the other. The standards are the same for almost every task including the candidate killer...hand grenades
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