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If a Soldier earns an Naval Warfare pin are they allowed to wear it in ACUs? I have looked through AR 670-1 and AR 600-8-22 and can not find a clear answer on it.
Posted 11 y ago
Responses: 7
Naval Warfare pins may be worn on the ACU. You must submit for permission to do so. There is an excerpt regarding this in AR 670-1 and AR 600-8-22 on how to apply for this priveledge.
We had to look this up for a EBOLC classmate of mine, and I looked it up again recently.
We had to look this up for a EBOLC classmate of mine, and I looked it up again recently.
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IIRC, I saw a blurb somewhere stating that soldiers who earn unique skill badges (ie AF flight wings, Naval Wafare badges, etc) are allowed to wear them on their uniform if earned while serving in a sister service. We are not authorized to wear certain ribbons however from other services however (ie combat action ribbon, marksmanship ribbons, etc).
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LTC Yinon Weiss
LTC Labrador, that is not exactly correct about ribbons. According go AR 600-8-22 "Military Awards":
5–2. Service medals and ribbons awarded by other U.S. Services
Service medals and ribbons awarded by other U.S. Services may be worn on the Army uniform except the Air Force Longevity Service Award Ribbon and Air Force and Navy Marksmanship ribbons. Service and training ribbons awarded by other U.S. Services will be worn after U.S. Army service and training ribbons and before foreign awards.
However, I have never seen any information about badges from other services. I've certainly never seen anyone wear it, but it would be great if somebody could point to the actual regulation.
5–2. Service medals and ribbons awarded by other U.S. Services
Service medals and ribbons awarded by other U.S. Services may be worn on the Army uniform except the Air Force Longevity Service Award Ribbon and Air Force and Navy Marksmanship ribbons. Service and training ribbons awarded by other U.S. Services will be worn after U.S. Army service and training ribbons and before foreign awards.
However, I have never seen any information about badges from other services. I've certainly never seen anyone wear it, but it would be great if somebody could point to the actual regulation.
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SPC,
Part of the reason you can't find it in the regulations is that both are very out of date and the current revisions have not been completed or approved yet, you will most likely need to search for an ALARACT covering the subject if there is even one out for it. However, with all due respect to those who have earned the pin/badge, don't we have enough badges already that clutter up the ACU's, I think this should be reserved for the ASUs only as to not turn everyone in ACUs as badge hounds. Wouldn't you agree on this for today's environment.
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PO3 (Join to see)
SFC James Baber, respectfully, I completely disagree with your reference to ANY badges (or any award for that matter) as "clutter." Having qualified Submarines while in the Navy, I understand the hard work and sacrifice required to earn that badge. I'm quite sure other badge awarding schools or courses are probably as rigorous. Knowing what I do about the EFMB and EIB (from friends and relatives currently in the Army), the Enlisted Submarine Warfare Qualification is on par with those badges.
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SFC James Baber
Mike,
You completely misinterpreted my comment and meaning, we have in all services for years had the personnel that I referred to as "badge hounds", they only want the schools or TDY's for the badge not for what it signifies. As I clearly stated these are perfectly fine for the ASU's (dress uniform) so that all may view and see your accomplishments, but the ACU is your daily duty uniform, all the multiple badges and accoutrements are a safety issue as well as a detriment for doing your job on a daily basis, while I now understand they have patches for most of these badges, the old subdued metal badges one would weigh down your uniform and two would create a safety issue for whatever equipment you could be working on and these extra extensions from the uniform could become entangled from, again you misread what I stated and the intent as well, not once did I knock anyone for earning these badges, just that they don't belong all over the daily duty uniform and should remain reserved for the dress uniforms as a primary focus.
I had many that I never wore on my ACU's that I was authorized to wear as I felt that I had nothing to prove or to show anyone, I never wore my recruiter, air assault, airborne badges as I didn't feel the need while I was authorized and not mandated to wear them I chose not to for some of the reasons I mentioned above, primarily the safety issue, as one of my duties was as a safety inspector and I also was a hands on type of NCO when it came to maintenance and equipment of my Soldiers.
Thank you for what you did and earned while serving.
You completely misinterpreted my comment and meaning, we have in all services for years had the personnel that I referred to as "badge hounds", they only want the schools or TDY's for the badge not for what it signifies. As I clearly stated these are perfectly fine for the ASU's (dress uniform) so that all may view and see your accomplishments, but the ACU is your daily duty uniform, all the multiple badges and accoutrements are a safety issue as well as a detriment for doing your job on a daily basis, while I now understand they have patches for most of these badges, the old subdued metal badges one would weigh down your uniform and two would create a safety issue for whatever equipment you could be working on and these extra extensions from the uniform could become entangled from, again you misread what I stated and the intent as well, not once did I knock anyone for earning these badges, just that they don't belong all over the daily duty uniform and should remain reserved for the dress uniforms as a primary focus.
I had many that I never wore on my ACU's that I was authorized to wear as I felt that I had nothing to prove or to show anyone, I never wore my recruiter, air assault, airborne badges as I didn't feel the need while I was authorized and not mandated to wear them I chose not to for some of the reasons I mentioned above, primarily the safety issue, as one of my duties was as a safety inspector and I also was a hands on type of NCO when it came to maintenance and equipment of my Soldiers.
Thank you for what you did and earned while serving.
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