Posted on Dec 2, 2014
SGT Kristin Wiley
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For those of us on permanent profile, we know we don't get special treatment and scarcely receive 'gym time' to PT within our limitations. Most units work hard to ensure SMs with medical profiles PT with the unit, and reduce the perception of special treatment. While there is nothing against mentality, it leaves profiled soldiers at a disadvantage when performing alternate PT activities during unit PT. On PT run days, my experience has been that profile SMs walk the same amount of time that the rest of the unit is running (training to time, not distance). We all know that a 1-mile walk is not equivalent to a 2-mile run, hence the PT test standard being a 2.5 mile walk (equivalent?).

So I wanted to ask the community, what can be done to ensure that profiled soldiers conducting unit PT can maximize this time for the best workout. Please provide suggestions for SMs with all types of profiles (excluding non-PT profiles). My end goal for this discussion is to create an alternate training plan for profiled soldiers that will provide the maximum PT benefits within prescribed limitations. Once I develop this training I plan, I plan on presenting it to my leadership to help revamp the PT program so that when certain activities are scheduled (ie. Running) that profiled soldiers have better alternatives to maintain physical fitness. If possible I also want to reduce the stereotype that profiled SMs are lazy when it comes to physical fitness. Would prefer suggestions for an outdoors scenario with little to no exercise equipment.

(Side note: To my knowledge FM 7-22 does not provide good alternatives to profiled soldiers not part of a special program (reconditioning), would welcome any information showing otherwise)
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PFC Aaron Knapp
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Do I looked for cardio exercises while on a sit up profile. Back in the day I did a lot of country dancing at NCO club in Germany. Was even questioned once about it. But when my profile lifted I was able to finish my run as 2nd in my battalion. You have to look for alternative methods to stay in shape that don't violate your profile. I know we tend to be hard on soldiers on profile or our "sick call Rangers" but we need to remember that were human and we get hurt. You need to be encouraging. I even went back after completing my run to run in with the slower soldiers. We need to remember no one left behind covers more than battlefield injuries.
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SSG Aircraft Mechanic
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Ask the guy that wants to give profiles a pay reduction.
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TSgt Jackie Jones
TSgt Jackie Jones
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Oh my. That guy should have ALL kinds of ideas!
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Edited 10 y ago
My suggestion, SGT Kristin Wiley, is for the Soldiers with profiles to at least do something. I stood in formations for 30 years and watched the people with profiles "fall out" while the rest of us did PT.

I also worked with a Soldier who had to do the walk instead of the run. That walk is no cake walk. So, the profile Soldiers should fall out and do something. Not go home. Going home just confirms the negative feelings of many towards those troops with profiles.
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SGT Kristin Wiley
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Chief,
Not saying they should go home or go to the gym. I'm asking other than walking, which isn't much of a workout, what other activities can profiled soldiers do to maintain fitness while everyone else is doing a run? I want them to do PT, but I want them to do PT that provides them with the maximum benefits within their prescribed limitations. I want to find the best way to do that.
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PFC Aaron Knapp
PFC Aaron Knapp
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Walking is still doing something though... Short of a seperate PT gor profiles it is doing something. I don't feel the Chief is off in his suggestion.
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