Posted on May 15, 2014
Lodging In Kind (LIK); Handling problems with hotel managers?
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What type of problems have other Reserve and National Guard units had with Lodging In Kind (LIK)? We keep running in to problems of hotels not wanting to conduct business because of having to wait 14-20 days, after the rooms were used to be paid. Any suggestions on how to approach hotel managers about this?
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Just curious... how come you guys are not using government travel cards for your hotel travel? The hotel gets paid right away that way. How does Lodging In Kind work?
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SFC A.M. Drake
correction SSG Porter....new Message from OCAR the new mileage has increased to 100 miles or 3 hours one way
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I've never had any issues getting LIK at my reserve unit. As long as we fill out our request in a timely manner we get the room. However, I have had issues with the interpretation of the DOD Instruction that authorizes LIK. DOD Instruction 1225.9 dated December 17, 2001 states:
"It is DoD policy to provide Reserve component personnel who travel more than 50 miles from the member's residence to perform active duty or inactive duty training with billeting by confirming their reservations to the same extent as Active component members traveling under orders away from the permanent duty station."
If it is DOD policy to provide lodging for any service member who travels more than 50 miles, how are commands authorized to change the mileage radius? I live 130 miles from my unit. The 99th RRC policy is to provide lodging for one night for Soldiers outside 50 miles and two nights for Soldiers outside 150 miles. The DOD Instruction says 50 miles. It does not make any exception for varying mileage. It clearly states "more than 50 miles." I understand the policy that a unit commander may add to, but never take away from a regulation or policy. I understand that this means that if the fleece cap is authorized, but a commander does not like it, he can declare that none of his Soldiers will wear it. This policy is adding to the regulation. Increasing the mileage to become authorized LIK is not adding to a policy, it is taking away from a policy (or benefit).
"It is DoD policy to provide Reserve component personnel who travel more than 50 miles from the member's residence to perform active duty or inactive duty training with billeting by confirming their reservations to the same extent as Active component members traveling under orders away from the permanent duty station."
If it is DOD policy to provide lodging for any service member who travels more than 50 miles, how are commands authorized to change the mileage radius? I live 130 miles from my unit. The 99th RRC policy is to provide lodging for one night for Soldiers outside 50 miles and two nights for Soldiers outside 150 miles. The DOD Instruction says 50 miles. It does not make any exception for varying mileage. It clearly states "more than 50 miles." I understand the policy that a unit commander may add to, but never take away from a regulation or policy. I understand that this means that if the fleece cap is authorized, but a commander does not like it, he can declare that none of his Soldiers will wear it. This policy is adding to the regulation. Increasing the mileage to become authorized LIK is not adding to a policy, it is taking away from a policy (or benefit).
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MAJ (Join to see)
We get told often that we have no funds for LIK and the soldier is "on their own" at our TPU.
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MSG Danny Stanley
That sound like an IG or Congressional issue MAJ (Join to see). There is a DOD Instruction stating that units will provide lodging. If they cannot provide lodging it seems like a legitimate reason for Soldiers outside of commuting distance to have an excused absence or be allowed to make it up when the unit has money.
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Hey guys. I had this same problem. I have a funny feeling that the issue is with the request in GFEBS, the new Army accounting software. You guys need to contact your G-4 at the higher HQ and talk to them about funding. Becuase this may be a simple case of the UA not entering the information into the system in a timely manner.
Also, ask what the higher command is doing. Ask if they are utilizing LIK. If they are then there is no reason why you should not be able to.
Also, ask what the higher command is doing. Ask if they are utilizing LIK. If they are then there is no reason why you should not be able to.
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SSG (Join to see)
SSG Barker - Unless the UA is also the GPC card holder then they have nothing to do with GFEBS. Each unit should have their own LIK-Coordinator (Additional Duty) who is responsible for sending up fund requests to the GPC holder at LEAST 30 days before the BA weekend (recommended 60 days out). The GPC cardholder or BO (Billing Official) then inputs the PR&C (Purchase Request and Commitment) into GFEBS for approval. This is most likely not happening in 1LT McDuffie's unit. It's not that they don't have any funds, it's that they don't have any "approved" funds.
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I'm a prime contractor for LIK and lodging contracts. I see you posted a while ago; I can be reached at [login to see]
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