Posted on Feb 22, 2016
Is it fair that Super Delegates are voting for Hillary regardless of the people's choice for Bernie?
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Super Delegates have said they are voting for Hillary regardless of what people want. Is this fair to the people who vote? Is the system rigged? Should we do away with Super Delegates?
Democrats
Politics
Election 2016
Hillary Clinton
Bernie Sanders
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Why Superdelegates Won't Feel the Bern
Bernie's the guy who hates fraternities on his college campus, speaks out every chance he gets about how elitist they are, how evil they are, how much mo...
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I find their use of Super Delegates very interesting since its more republican (the method, not the party) in nature. They're entrusting the vote to smart individuals to make decisions which won't be swayed by popular opinion, which is a far cry from pure democracy. Perhaps this is their own way of preventing a tyranny of the majority? After all, just consider the intelligence level of the average voter, and fully half of them are less intelligent than that.
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MCPO Roger Collins
Cpl Matthew Wall - They are elected by the voters to carry out the wishes of the electorate. It has nothing to do with intellect, but known citizens politically connected. If they go against the will of the people they will not be welcomed. None of this applies to the so-called Super Delegates, they are there to influence the candidate selected by the establishment.
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Capt (Join to see)
I'm talking about the use of people who aren't bound by their constituents' votes (like normal delegates) and entrusted with the ability to use their own conscience and good judgment. It's more characteristic of a republic than a pure democracy. Albeit, you're right about the purpose of the primary, since it can all go awry come the national convention. I'm just amused by the irony.
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Man, it chaps my hide to no end. I saw a statement from the DNC that the purpose of the super delegates was to protect the party from a grass roots movement. To include, but separate them...
REALLY???
Here's the link:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/12/we-need-more-questions-like-this-one-from-jake-tapper-to-debbie-wasserman-schultz-video/
Here's the quote:
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: Well, let me just make sure that I can clarify exactly what was available during the primaries in Iowa and in New Hampshire. The unpledged delegates are a separate category. The only thing available on the ballot in a primary and a caucus is the pledged delegates, those that are tied to the candidate that they are pledged to support. And they receive a proportional number of delegates going into the — going into our convention.
Unpledged delegates exist really to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don't have to be in a position where they are running against grass-roots activists. We are, as a Democratic Party, really highlight and emphasize inclusiveness and diversity at our convention, and so we want to give every opportunity to grass-roots activists and diverse committed Democrats to be able to participate, attend and be a delegate at the convention. And so we separate out those unpledged delegates to make sure that there isn't competition between them.
REALLY???
Here's the link:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/12/we-need-more-questions-like-this-one-from-jake-tapper-to-debbie-wasserman-schultz-video/
Here's the quote:
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: Well, let me just make sure that I can clarify exactly what was available during the primaries in Iowa and in New Hampshire. The unpledged delegates are a separate category. The only thing available on the ballot in a primary and a caucus is the pledged delegates, those that are tied to the candidate that they are pledged to support. And they receive a proportional number of delegates going into the — going into our convention.
Unpledged delegates exist really to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don't have to be in a position where they are running against grass-roots activists. We are, as a Democratic Party, really highlight and emphasize inclusiveness and diversity at our convention, and so we want to give every opportunity to grass-roots activists and diverse committed Democrats to be able to participate, attend and be a delegate at the convention. And so we separate out those unpledged delegates to make sure that there isn't competition between them.
We need more questions like this one from Jake Tapper to Debbie Wasserman Schultz [video]
Democratic officials should have to defend the superdelegate system.
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No, its not. But the democrats rig their system just for that purpose. They are not really the party of the people like they claim to be.
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The whole system is rigged. Electoral college anyone? Why is it that India (population a billion and a bit) can have "one-man-one-vote" but America can't?
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Sgt Mark Ramos
Maj Werner Saemmler-Hindrichs, You said, "Where do you people get these ideas? ". Why the condescension?
As it stands Secretary Clinton has 24% more "won" delegates than Senator Sanders. But CNN and most media outlets are including superdelegates in their graphs. That makes it look like Clinton has 65% more delegates. The difference between the two numbers is the effect of "the people" not choosing.
As it stands Secretary Clinton has 24% more "won" delegates than Senator Sanders. But CNN and most media outlets are including superdelegates in their graphs. That makes it look like Clinton has 65% more delegates. The difference between the two numbers is the effect of "the people" not choosing.
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PO3 Donald Murphy
Maj Werner Saemmler-Hindrichs - "Ideas?" Its called America. First election Major? You do know that your vote in the presidential election doesn't count, right? Its called the Electoral College.
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The ENTIRE system of election is set up to protect against uneducated voters. It's all rigged and will likely never change. When I lived in california my vote was counted less than 1. In wa state it is no different and those who represent the people will make a vote that helps themselves.
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I don't think anyone should support a woman who fail to follow proper procedures with classified information, lied, and obstruct the investigation by wiping out her hardrive. It is absolutely deplorable for anyone even to consider to support hillary especially when she has blood of four Americans serving and representing our country and boldly lied to their families and to the nation.
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I don't think anyone should support a woman who fail to follow proper procedures with classified information, lied, and obstruct the investigation by wiping out her hardrive. It is absolutely deplorable for anyone even to consider to support hillary especially when she has blood of four Americans serving and representing our country and boldly lied to their families and to the nation.
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No it's a set up. I would think the political party big shots feel American Society in general are to drunk , doped up & selfish to give a shit. That we only care if it affects us , i the problem lands on our door. Other wise most keep a mental state of , lets call it - comfortably numb. How does that sound. One more thing * is it fair you ask ??, not sure.
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