Is a 3/3 a bad NCOER? Is it worth even fighting?

My first question is where are your quarterly counselings. If you have not been properly counseled then your rater is wrong and you definitely have a valid complaint and grounds to appeal the NCOER. The next issue is NO ONE can tell the rater what you write on your NCOER so if the 1SG and CSM are doing that then they are wrong as well and again you have a valid reason for appeal. Although canceling your ALC did not help you it should not be the primary reason for a lower rating if your overall performance was at or above the standard. The best thing you could do is read the regulations about NCOERs and the appeal process.

Do you have all the signatures on this NCOER were you are rated as 2/3?

A 3-3 is still a good NCOER. Is a 2-2 or a 2-1 better yes. Most reviewers I know want to see counciling that supports a 3-3 or less but non the less it's not going to destroy your career. If you have a no in a values box you have a problem.

Take charge of your career as the next rsting period begins. Ask for your counciling to occur and be interactive with it. Ask that the support form is used and keep a copy handy for yourself to write down your achievements. Ask along the way if you were going to rate me today what would you give me? And make sure you do the same with your senior rater. This is your career and how your ncoer turns out shouldn't be a surprise.

Don't fight it...your not going to get far. Instead ask why they felt that way and if possible provide some bullets for yourself. You might have done something great no one thought of.

If you do not have counseling statements during rated period to justify 3/3, then you have reasonable grounds to fight this.

If you read the reg a 3 is promote with peers 2 is promote ahead of peers and a 1 is prompte now. So I 3 actually is a good performance ncoer now I would rather get a 3/3 than a 2/3. Basically a 2/3 is saying this guy performed above his peers but his future potential he will digress and his performance will be worse.

SGT(P) (Join to see) you are partially correct, but more misinformed. Under the new system, there is no requirement for a rater to submit 50 percent of their NCOs as a 1/1. Additionally, there will be 3 different versions of the NCOER depending on who the rated NCO is (1 for SGT, 1 for SSG-MSG, 1 for SGM-CSM). For Senior Raters, they cannot exceed 49 percent as "MOST QUALIFIED", which is how OERs are currently done. Raters will still utilize the bullet format, but S/R will be able to utilize a narrative format. As in the current system, the new one also encourages quantifiable comments to justify the rating (this is part where you were partially correct). Your BN or BDE S1 should be holding NCOPD to educate the force about the changes. HRC has already put out a second slide show to assist in this. For my unit, I will be conducting a class this month.

Let's be real herre. You have 90 days to submit a commanders inquiry to your commander. Open the reg and read what's required. Bottom line, it isn't a bad NCOER; just not a great one. Sounds like you did just enough to get by and nothing excellent. If you did things that warrent an excellence that hasn't been captured, get with your rater. Don't want to be a dick, but you're in charge of your ratings through out the year. You gotta perform; unless your rating chain sucks, your 1SG and CSM blessed off on this already.

A 2/3 doesnt even make sense. You current performance is a 2...but your potential is a 3? So your potential performance is less than what you are doing now?

SFC (Join to see) , I am not there but what I can tell you that it is your right to request an Inquiry if you believe the wrong thing is being done on your evaluation. Remember it is "Your Evaluation."

The proper process is Inquiry and then Appeal. Your appeal will have much more weight if you have a favorable inquiry.

Be sure to know AR 623-3 inside and out. become an informed Leader as most raters utilize intimidation in these matters.

With that said, I agree with some of the other comments on here. As long as you did not get a relief for cause you should not have to be too concerned with the evaluation. Of course I would go outside your unit to get advice from a Senior NCO, preferably a CSM/SGM who has sat on a Board before.

Whatever you do STAY MOTIVATED! That will irritate those who try to bring you down more than complaining or not working hard. If you allow that to happen then they have you in their pocket. You become the "Puppet."

I wish the best for you.

According to the reg a 3 block is successful. Sounds like you're a mid - pack young NCO. There's nothing wrong with that but your rater and senior rater don't see you as a rock star. Figure out what it takes to set yourself apart and get there.