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"The concept of intersectionality recognizes that people can be privileged in some ways and definitely not privileged in others. There are many different types of privilege, not just skin-color privilege, that impact the way people can move through the world or are discriminated against. These are all things you are born into, not things you earned, that afford you opportunities that others may not have."

How does the concept of intersectionality affect you? Sexual discrimination, white privilege, male privilege?

Can we use and teach intersectionality in our units to help people analyze disfunction?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gina-crosleycorcoran/explaining-white-privilege-to-a-broke-white-person_b_5269255.html
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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Privilege is nothing more than a perception by someone who feels they have it worse than the next guy. We all feel it in one way or another. Some take it harder than others and act on it in an attempt to level the playing field. Others take it for what its worth and are thankful for what they have.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca, I think it is more than a perception...perhaps cultural perception manifested? I really liked this example:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/nathanwpyle/this-teacher-taught-his-class-a-powerful-lesson-about-privil
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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Excellent example I like that. The only thing I think is unrealistic is having to stay in your seat. To me its like saying, you have to accept your place in life and give it your pest shot as opposed to jockeying for a better position first, then taking your shot. Like the analogy though.
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Touché!
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I grew up in trailer parks in rural Alabama. I remember lying in my bed, in my tiny, stifling room, and seeing the light of the moon in the cracks under my window sill. I had rats that lived in the closet, and would come out at night and scratchscratchscratch under my bed. My mother had boyfriends who would come in and out of our lives. The first time I visited a crack-house and smoked crack-cocaine...I was 14.
I was "beat" into a gang at 15, and ran away from home at 16. By 17, I had been pregnant three times.
By 25, most childhood friends had already died of overdoses, or car-wrecks, or AIDS.
When I stepped into my relative's homes, under hostile eyes, where was "white privilege?" When I walked into a store, with my pregnant belly, in GoodWill clothes and twenty-year old car...where was "white privilege"? Where was "white privilege" when my family was being scrutinized, in case we "trailer park trash" were robbing the "moneyed folks" blind?
I'd like to know. Maybe the keepers of such a fortune were asleep on the job.
This hostility, this innate distrust in society, may not necessarily be due to racism, by itself. Classicism is a critical, judgmental bitch. We have a long way to go, folks.
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SPC(P) Jay Heenan, so do my kids, I hope.
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SGT (Join to see), thank you for sharing. Do you see similar issues in our military, between units or ranks? What I'm trying to ask is: do we as a military have a long way to go or society in general. What can we do better?
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Society, I believe, would be the more appropriate answer, Sir. Actually, the military,as a whole, represents the best in us, I think...which is why we continue to serve. This is especially true when we open our ears and listen. "Society" has less of an impact on soldiers' lives than do our fellow service-members. Perhaps because we have such commonality, that frankly, we don't necessarily share with the general public. Thank you for asking, Sir.
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CMSgt James Nolan
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SGT (Join to see) You are starting to move up into leadership positions-not to say that you are not leading now, but you are going to be designated out as a leader. As such, your background/life experience is going to give you a perspective different from many. You will have much life experience to draw from when making decisions that influence outcomes on troop behavior. Don't forget your experience, use it. When troopie X comes in whining about they can't........you get to have a sit down that is based in reality, not theory. BIG difference.

Best of luck
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Some background from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality):
"This feminist sociological theory was first named by Kimberlé Crenshaw in 1989, though the concept can be traced back to the 19th century. The theory suggests that—and seeks to examine how—various biological, social and cultural categories such as gender, race, class, ability, sexual orientation, caste, and other axes of identity interact on multiple and often simultaneous levels, contributing to systematic injustice and social inequality. Intersectionality holds that the classical conceptualizations of oppression within society, such as racism, sexism, biphobia, homophobia, transphobia, and belief-based bigotry, do not act independently of one another. Instead, these forms of oppression interrelate, creating a system of oppression that reflects the "intersection" of multiple forms of discrimination."
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Intersectionality: How does it affect you?
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Great question Sir. I'm not sure if this affects me personally, but I have witnessed similar issues. I hope that you will understand that this is not a jab at you because you are wearing a flight suit in your photo, but you, I am almost positive have heard the term "Zipper God's". As a Security Forces member and being a grunt of the AF. I am a Phoenix Raven and have flown over 150 missions with Air Crew members. I have seen a lot of Pilots that came from extensive backgrounds and feel a sense of entitlement to say the least. As far as the squadrons go though, I know that the OPS Group is far more privlaged than any of the MSG squadrons. Most don't understand the importance of the mission, but I get it!!
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Zipper God's? Nope, that's new to me. Although I don't fly Ravens that often as the KC-135 rarely goes places that needs them.

For clarification on your last sentence, are you saying most Mission Support Group squadrons don't get the importance of the mission?

As the AF attempts to shift focus back to operations (Gen Welsh says something to this effect on most speaking engagements), being good at your job ought to get more recognition. The Ops Groups I've been a part of usually have the attitude that we are affecting the mission, hence 'more' operational than the support troop cooking meals or crunching the travel vouchers.

I agree it's easy to feel entitled in my mission/operations focus because I fly the plane. The key is to know that entitlement exists and work to ensure my actions do not become biased because of it.
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Yes, the rest of the MSG Units need to understand how important it is for you to do your job, otherwise they feel like it's just another job. The fact of the matter is, without people like myself and others like me, you would not be able to do your job. Hence the reason why we deploy first to set up bare bases. Security has to be established before anyone can initiate the building of a base or FOB. I understand the importance of the airlift mission therefore it makes me a better SF member.
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CMSgt James Nolan
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SMSgt (Join to see) As a AF Cop, I can pretty safely tell you that 100% of the AF Cops I know have those thoughts in the back of their minds. Because no matter what, no matter where, no matter how, they will be out there on post. Yet when it comes time for something nice, they are last. Misery loves company, and the cop units tend to be very close knit.

I don't think that is discrimination or prejudice, but entitlement, there are definitely some who feel entitled. That being said, how that entitlement is displayed varies from unit to unit. Ours takes good care of us, and I have been hanging out there for 14 years.

The thing that I agree with the most is that pilots need to get what all goes into the rest of the AF. The good ones do and become leaders and commanders that have respect that is not just based on the rank. And I have met some who were kick ass pilots, but could not lead a sandwich out of a paper bag, luckily, it seems there are fewer of the latter.

In the South, we refer to them as long zippers.
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CMSgt James Nolan
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Maj (Join to see) I would like to think that in the Military, the whole theory of Intersectionality would not have any place. We all bleed green. But I have to admit today is the first time I have heard this phrase.

As a Marine, everybody had to eat the same Sh&t sandwich to earn the title (officers had one, that may have had condiments and napkins {joke} enlisted had another). Any kind of privilege was non-existent in Boot Camp. Unless I can claim that I did not have the same chance at becoming Commandant as an officer, I would have no standing. Unless we are saying that the officer/enlisted separation is some kind of elitism? But if it were, there would be no opportunity for enlisted to commission, unless we assume that is some kind of charity project.....don't think so.

Now that I am in the Guard, I would say the same thing: Do not see intersectionality. Promotion is based upon work ethic, capability and performance. You want to promote, do the work-I don't see that privilege stacks into the equation. Everyone has the opportunity to do PT, to work on marksmanship, to do their PME, to take college classes and use their GI Bill to pay for it.....

I see the military as truly being a land of opportunity for success. I think that troops can either take advantage of the opportunities or not. Sometimes those opportunities come by way of challenge, pain, sweat and sometimes by studying. To a large degree, we follow our own destinies. Some choose to cry over spilt milk.

I do think that good leaders learn how to identify what makes their personnel tick. I think they then alter their styles slightly when dealing with different personalities to maximize performance from their personnel. I do not see that as privilege nor discrimination, but as leadership.

May have strayed slightly off topic...
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I liked your boot camp comment. That ought to be the ultimate crucible where everyone is equal, broken down into base components where such transparency exists to truly see we are all the same regardless of how we look, where we come from, etc. (excepting the TIs-godlike as they may seem).

I liked your comments on opportunity and leadership and agree the military does provide many great opportunities to learn and grow, regardless of who you are.

The challenge then is to analyze those things when your troops are having issues, when the unit isn't operating optimally, and determine using an intersectional lens, that the root of the problem isn't one of prejudice or bigotry.
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Maj (Join to see) I agree with that thought sir, in some regards-I don't think that prejudice or bigotry should be my first go to question if things are not going right in the unit. That being said, if it turns out that bigotry/prejudice is the reason for something being jacked up, I feel that a great big hammer ought to be present to rectify that pronto.
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'White privilege'? Is there some special thing I was supposed to get because of my skin color and I missed it? Do I also suffer from 'male privilege' because I have a p#nis? Does the President suffer from 'black privilege' because he is our first black President? What about Oprah also suffer from it because she has billions?

The way I see it, this does more to tear us apart than it ever will do to bring us together. It gives us a reason to not accept 'personal responsibility' and blame others for their bad choices or just plain bad luck.
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SPC(P) Jay Heenan, bad luck happens e.g. the 'life isn't fair' mantra I've seen on the forums. Because of the different biases we possess, do we judge personal responsibility differently?

I'd like to clarify that we don't suffer from priviledge, it's something we have because we're born that way, an able body for example whereas handicapped don't have that privilege.MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca's analogy to moving seats to gain opportunity makes sense, but often time members of society may judge/criticize those for not moving seats. Perhaps they could never see that as an option?

Intersectionality should be a lens we use to look at the different biases we possess and how those biases affect our beliefs and actions. Can we use it to mend us together?
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