Posted on Jul 12, 2014
Interesting article on the Garrison Army and Mission command
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At least I think it is. In addition to the drawdown, how will the return to garrison/bureaucratic norms impact both the force and retention?
Having seen the 90's, 00's, and the 10's to date (as well as just a bit of the 80's and having been a military brat in the 70's), I have my opinions, but I am interested in yours.
I note that I am currently reading D'Estes' Eisenhower, and there is little that is truly new under the sun.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-armys-next-enemy-peace/2014/07/10/f02b5180-f0dc-11e3-914c-1fbd0614e2d4_story.html
Having seen the 90's, 00's, and the 10's to date (as well as just a bit of the 80's and having been a military brat in the 70's), I have my opinions, but I am interested in yours.
I note that I am currently reading D'Estes' Eisenhower, and there is little that is truly new under the sun.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-armys-next-enemy-peace/2014/07/10/f02b5180-f0dc-11e3-914c-1fbd0614e2d4_story.html
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Vince, interesting article.
LTG(Ret) Barno relates his observations about the CSA's comments in 1979 about 'selective disobedience". This hasn't really changed much today in spirit, it's merely in wording. I remember a conversation I with my boss about my job being to manage failure because there were too many requirements to satisfy and not enough resources (time, $$, people, etc) to complete them. It was my job as the commander to figure out which were the 'glass balls' and which were the 'rubber balls'.
I agree with his assessment of risk taking in peacetime being eliminated. We have a larger focus on minimizing risk in garrison to the point that we fail to adequately appreciate the impact of the failure (both good and bad) and instead just look at in a single-minded view that "Failure is bad .. ABSOLUTELY BAD!". From a leadership view, leaders have to be given the opportunity to fail, we just need to ensure that there is something there to ensure that they aren't going to fail catastrophically.
However, I disagree with his views on the technology having corrosive effects being a new thing though. I imagine that Grant was complaining about the corrosive (probably didn't use that word) effects of the telegraph because Lincoln was able to directly and more frequently communicate with him. I do agree with the effects though, but I see the challenge of mitigating those effects as nothing new and something that all leaders throughout the military need to handle.
What's the answer? In order to break the compliance culture that he speaks about (and I agree - it seems we're morphing more and more into that), leaders need to exercise self-control and push-back. How's the saying go? ... Lack of planning on your part doesn't constitute an emergency on my part. Put another way, just because it's important to you doesn't mean it's important to me. I have a job to do and missions to accomplish. If it's important to my organization, mission, or my soldiers, then it's important to me. If some requirement is there but doesn't have the importance ... well, refer to my comments above about my role being to manage failure.
LTG(Ret) Barno relates his observations about the CSA's comments in 1979 about 'selective disobedience". This hasn't really changed much today in spirit, it's merely in wording. I remember a conversation I with my boss about my job being to manage failure because there were too many requirements to satisfy and not enough resources (time, $$, people, etc) to complete them. It was my job as the commander to figure out which were the 'glass balls' and which were the 'rubber balls'.
I agree with his assessment of risk taking in peacetime being eliminated. We have a larger focus on minimizing risk in garrison to the point that we fail to adequately appreciate the impact of the failure (both good and bad) and instead just look at in a single-minded view that "Failure is bad .. ABSOLUTELY BAD!". From a leadership view, leaders have to be given the opportunity to fail, we just need to ensure that there is something there to ensure that they aren't going to fail catastrophically.
However, I disagree with his views on the technology having corrosive effects being a new thing though. I imagine that Grant was complaining about the corrosive (probably didn't use that word) effects of the telegraph because Lincoln was able to directly and more frequently communicate with him. I do agree with the effects though, but I see the challenge of mitigating those effects as nothing new and something that all leaders throughout the military need to handle.
What's the answer? In order to break the compliance culture that he speaks about (and I agree - it seems we're morphing more and more into that), leaders need to exercise self-control and push-back. How's the saying go? ... Lack of planning on your part doesn't constitute an emergency on my part. Put another way, just because it's important to you doesn't mean it's important to me. I have a job to do and missions to accomplish. If it's important to my organization, mission, or my soldiers, then it's important to me. If some requirement is there but doesn't have the importance ... well, refer to my comments above about my role being to manage failure.
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A failure to do the same today would exact high costs. As a young captain with multiple combat deployments recently told me: “They won’t have to shrink the force; lots of great people will leave because they are going to make it too painful for them to stay.”
The above sums up the article well. The military IS losing its best and brightest but the politicians don't care. Why?
I do disagree with one thing. The headline. The enemy isn't going to be peace. It will be ourselves.
The above sums up the article well. The military IS losing its best and brightest but the politicians don't care. Why?
I do disagree with one thing. The headline. The enemy isn't going to be peace. It will be ourselves.
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MSG, the truth IS the truth whether one chooses to believe it or not. The fact is I PERSONALLY have NOT nor will EVER cheapen promotions, retention or awards. The fact is those already HAVE been cheapened. I can speak from personal experience of seeing many personnel getting promoted, undeservedly. Many of them don't even KNOW their jobs yet they get promoted. This goes from promotions to E4 all the way to E8. I also know of other NCOs and Officers who have THEIR experiences with the same. Just because you personally don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I mention awards too because it's in the same category. They have been highly cheapened. That's not me doing it, that's just me stating a fact.
Just to be clear, I am NOT saying any of the above to be disrespectful or even spiteful towards you or other seniors. I'm only stating what is the truth. I would respectfully ask you to answer this question. Have you ever seen personnel get promoted who did not deserve it for whatever reason, whether incompetence, previous criminal actions, etc? Whether you wish to post the answer on here or not is up to you. All I request is some introspection.
One final thought, I will be the first to admit, and I have stated this multiple times before, that I have an AAM that I did NOT deserve. It was a cheapened award for "participating" in a deployment.
Just to be clear, I am NOT saying any of the above to be disrespectful or even spiteful towards you or other seniors. I'm only stating what is the truth. I would respectfully ask you to answer this question. Have you ever seen personnel get promoted who did not deserve it for whatever reason, whether incompetence, previous criminal actions, etc? Whether you wish to post the answer on here or not is up to you. All I request is some introspection.
One final thought, I will be the first to admit, and I have stated this multiple times before, that I have an AAM that I did NOT deserve. It was a cheapened award for "participating" in a deployment.
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I was asked in another forum how one goes about countering the trends listed in the article. My answer was as follows:
It really gets down to prioritization (focus groups better than "selective disobedience" among Flag Officers. ), knowing "what hill you're willing to die on", and moral courage.
You need to know your unit, what is important to its performance, and what isn't. You have to ensure that the important things get done and get to the unimportant things when and as they can be fit in - or not.
The trick is this may ruin your OER and end your career. Seniors may not appreciate your waving the BS flag. Especially about what they just stated was the "Army's #1 priority" of the day.
I have more than once informed a senior "Roger, understood, not doing it." As I have always had strong reasoning, that has worked when I've played that card (which has NOT been often). That said, I am a reservist and the Army isn't my livelihood. I acknowledge that I might not have done so were my ability to pay the mortgage impacted. I like to think I would, but I don't know that I would.
It really gets down to prioritization (focus groups better than "selective disobedience" among Flag Officers. ), knowing "what hill you're willing to die on", and moral courage.
You need to know your unit, what is important to its performance, and what isn't. You have to ensure that the important things get done and get to the unimportant things when and as they can be fit in - or not.
The trick is this may ruin your OER and end your career. Seniors may not appreciate your waving the BS flag. Especially about what they just stated was the "Army's #1 priority" of the day.
I have more than once informed a senior "Roger, understood, not doing it." As I have always had strong reasoning, that has worked when I've played that card (which has NOT been often). That said, I am a reservist and the Army isn't my livelihood. I acknowledge that I might not have done so were my ability to pay the mortgage impacted. I like to think I would, but I don't know that I would.
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