Posted on May 24, 2016
LTC Bruce Scott
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MSG John Duchesneau
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Steroids make big muscles. The Army likes big muscles. Ergo the Army likes steroids.
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SGM Erik Marquez
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LTC Bruce Scott "why not address steroid use with soldiers? "
Your saying they do not address this?
It was a tested substance when I retired Dec 31 2013, It was a substance a commander could request be tested for on a command directed UA, it is a substance CID actively investigates.

Your post almost implies, steroid use is an accepted norm or actually encouraged.. And I find that way off the mark.
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SGM Erik Marquez
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LTC Bruce Scott - Sir... I guess I'm missing the common understanding it is a "known problem with soldiers infrequently addressed"
I agree it is a known abused substance.
I know it is a tested for substance in most UA
I know it is a tested for substance when it is a command directed UA.
I know CID pursues allegations of use, distributing, possession.
I Know it is a illegal substance that is addressed in illicit drug education and briefings..
Lets try this..
What additional investigation, enforcement, education actions are you suggesting that would address the issue to your satisfaction?
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LTC Bruce Scott
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SGM -steroid use standard part of UA not just when requested.

Known users counseled and tracked - perhaps other actions including administrative or punitive.

-campaign to discourage this substance abuse

My question, however, posted under values - seeks to motivate soldiers and leaders to look deeper into questions about integrity as they pertain to Army Fitness standards.
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LTC Bruce Scott
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SGM Erik Marquez - ---Never saw one briefing on steroid use

Never met anyone UCMJ'd for steroid use

Never heard of anyone testing positive in a UA for steroid use

I know it is a problem with young soldiers
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Most don’t “pop hot” for steroids sir, because we are given UA tests, not tests seeking specific compounds or chemicals not found in UA tests, ie just shooting lots of extra testosterone...that’s what MOST young people do, just inject much more testosterone, and that doesn’t come up in the tests were given.
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Duane Weimerskirch
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i might be missing the mark, if they need bad asses who are ready to fight, let the roids carry on. like it matters either way the VA will drop the medical like a hot rock.
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