Posted on Oct 28, 2019
If my profile still states that I can't ride in military vehicles, can my PSG make me get in a Stryker?
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I am currently on a temporary profile that states that I cannot ride in a military vehicle or wear any equipment. Today as were about to leave for a field rotation (I do not mind going but i don't want to break my profile) My PLT SGT called the PA and had him change my profile so it says that I can wear my ACH. But my profile still states that I can't ride in military vehicles. Can he make me get in a Stryker? Im assuming he can't and I have been searching through the regulations and can not seem to find anything. Could someone possibly show me something to steer me in the right direction? I don't mind going to the field I don't think its that bad. But I don't want to break my profile and have my condition get worse as the result.
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If your profile states no military vehicles....and a Stryker is a military vehicle...then don't ride in it. I would recommend a visit to your provider and have it updated to state NO TACTICAL VEHICLES. Once this profile is updated, provide said copy of your profile to your PSG, your PL, your 1SG, your Commander, your Training/Readiness NCO. And, as for what you need to read up on, start with AR 40-502, Medical Readiness.
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Sounds like a bad profile has been written if it states "cannot ride in a military vehicle". Whoever wrote that profile needs to be more clear in what you can and cannot do. Providers write bad profiles all of the time.
Here's a good article (although a little dated) that provides some clarity around profiles, and refers to some resources that may be helpful.
http://www.forthoodsentinel.com/news/temporary-profile-interpretation-biggest-challenge-for-leaders/article_f1cd8468-de06-59c0-8ae1-b08d1dc13248.html
Here's a good article (although a little dated) that provides some clarity around profiles, and refers to some resources that may be helpful.
http://www.forthoodsentinel.com/news/temporary-profile-interpretation-biggest-challenge-for-leaders/article_f1cd8468-de06-59c0-8ae1-b08d1dc13248.html
Temporary profile: Interpretation biggest challenge for leaders
There are two categories of profiles – temporary or permanent. Today, we will focus on temporary profiles. Our office receives numerous calls in reference to the physical profiles.
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SrA John Monette
a "military vehicle" would include military versions of civilian vehicles, like pickup trucks and sedans. LTC Broom and SFT Livingston hit it spot on. The profile should specify types of vehicles. if it states "Military vehicle", it is far too broad
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WTF- If you can't ride in a vehicle, then you should be on bed rest, and NO NCO can force a WO to change shit unless it is wrong. No O can force a med change unless they are a higher Med O.
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You follow your profile. If it says no military vehicles that's a military vehicle. If you want it clarified go talk to your provider.
I'm not sure how your PSG managed to get your PA to change a profile - I'd be looking into that if it was me. They are I believe only supposed to talk to the commander.
Go talk to your PSG with your first line.
I'm not sure how your PSG managed to get your PA to change a profile - I'd be looking into that if it was me. They are I believe only supposed to talk to the commander.
Go talk to your PSG with your first line.
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Respectfully go talk to your platoon leader (not social media) If your that broke then maybe you should be on rear d for this one.
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Generally speaking, a PSG does not have the authority to order a violation of a profile (generally - there are always exceptions). This means it would be treated as an unlawful order. If you feel that his orders are violating your profile, clarify with him, and if he does not give you a satisfactory answer as to HOW his actions are justified, and he insists on the order, then go over his head to the PL, and, if necessary to the 1SG/CO.
However... Beware! If you refuse to comply and the CO decides the PSG was in the right, you may not like the end result. This is ALWAYS the risk when fighting an order you believe to be unlawful.
However... Beware! If you refuse to comply and the CO decides the PSG was in the right, you may not like the end result. This is ALWAYS the risk when fighting an order you believe to be unlawful.
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