Posted on Dec 12, 2015
If Donald Trump is elected President, would it be more honorable to resign from service or to serve under his "leadership"?
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My guess is that you even if Trump is elected you will not resign. My intuition tells me you have nothing else lined up.
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If 'someone' would resign under Trump, but continue serving under the current POTUS, I'd say they have fully politicized the issue, and quite frankly, only serve current POTUS because they've romanticized the current POTUS that they can't smell what has been cooking with their head up their rectum. I'm not sure what 'leadership' this POTUS has provided because you can't lead from behind.
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Last time I checked we swore an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic", no matter who the President may be at the time. In turbulent times it seems that resigning a.k.a. getting out, as a leader, is exactly the wrong direction one should be entertaining. In my humble opinion I believe at times like these we need common sense leaders to stay in order to put more buffers between possible 'toxic' leadership and the troops on the ground. Granted we cannot just disobey any orders given to us from higher, however we are all taught we should NEVER follow an unlawful order. If all common sense leaders get out and 'yes' men stay the chance of unlawful orders being enacted increase immensely.
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I don't like the tone of this at all. I am bit taken by this. We all could have said the same thing for the current POTUS. I may not agree with him on all things but I agree that he is my boss and I will do what he say. You don't have to like your boss to do your job. The military may be led by the Commander in Chief but that doesn't mean he directly affects us on a daily basis. I am more concerned about the SecArmy or the CoS.
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MAJ Bryan Zeski
What "tone" don't you like? The thoughtful inquisition of leaders and their integrity, morality, and selfless service is something every person in the military should always be interested in. My statement here concerning a candidate was much less disrespectful than virtually all of the comments regarding a current sitting President AND a separate candidate from the other side.
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MAJ Bryan Zeski - It seems to me that you are asking soldiers if they would quit due to a person being elected. That does not reflect the Army Values and is indeed selfish. I didn't join for a President. I joined to serve. I didn't join to serve if I could do how I wanted. I don't agree with the direction that our president is taking the country but if he called me and asked me to deploy in support of a operation that he implements I would go in a heart beat. I don't live in the political area I live in the real world. If Hillary gets elected I will still serve. It is more than just about who the POTUS. If it wasn't we would be a tool of politics. I just don't like hearing the such coming from military leaders.
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MAJ Bryan Zeski
CPT (Join to see) - Military leaders can and should question and re-question their motivations and values as they pertain to service. I'm not saying that, I, personally, would resign or consider resigning, but simply that a person must consider whether their service is still honorable if the leadership or direction of the thing they serve is not.
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Most everyone beat me to it...We serve the nation, not it's leadership.
That said, I personally feel that if you question the CIC enough to doubt your ability to follow orders and be a positive leadership example to your people...it's probably more honorable, or at least more practical, to leave.
That said, I personally feel that if you question the CIC enough to doubt your ability to follow orders and be a positive leadership example to your people...it's probably more honorable, or at least more practical, to leave.
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Why you like your current leadership. His rules of engagement gets people killed.
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Sir, it is one thing serving up hateful rhetoric that appeals to his base and gets him the votes and another thing implementing them. A President Trump that begins to round up Muslim or other groups he or his supporters hate will meet with a lot of resistance. I'd continue to serve until he begins to defy the Constitution.
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It would be more honorable to trust in your country and wait to see what actually happens.
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It would be too early to do something so drastic. If he actually ran our country the way he talks, as a racist with no no regard for American values, the question would have to be asked. Just as with the rise of Hitler though, there would be many who would stay. If our military no longer protects American values, it is time to become part of the solution instead. Let's hope that never happens.
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