Posted on Aug 13, 2015
COL Jon Thompson
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Stars and Stripes posted an article on the DOD Force of the Future that outlines the personnel changes that will affect all of the services. One interesting item in this is that mothers will be non-deployable for a year after giving birth or adoption. Mothers will also accrue 18 weeks of leave after each birth. When there is so much discussion about opening up all MOSs to women, what are the potential impacts of these changes? What would happen to a unit if key personnel could not deploy because of a child birth? I fail to see how these policies will make us a more lethal force. Please share your thoughts.

http://www.stripes.com/news/us/force-of-future-to-reward-talent-diversity-motherhood-1.362717
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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The military spews drivel over new things, concepts, personnel actions, and uniforms when we cant beat cavemen in the ME.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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To address specifically your question about loss of key personnel because of child birth. It's not like it just sneaks up on you. It's a 9 month process. You would know the person is non-deployable likely at the beginning of your work up cycle giving plenty of time to replace.

As for making us "more lethal" that may not be the actual endstate. It may be "more robust." To draw a comparison, if we were building a sportscar "faster" is one endstate, but "more survivable" (in a crash) is another.
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COL Jon Thompson
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Please explain how this makes us more robust? If a NCO or officer cannot do their job for at least a year and even more when you take into consideration their restrictions while pregnant, how does that make our military better? We have someone on our books that cannot perform their job for possibly one half of an enlistment.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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COL Jon Thompson Having more people that can fill ANY billet makes us more robust. That's more qualified applicants for each and every slot.

Yes, we will have troops with medical issues who are taken out of the fight for a year at a time. We have that now. I had a Motor T friend who was in a HMMWV that rolled. Jacked up his hand pretty bad. That's a medical issue that will take you out of the fight. How many grunts, torque their back, knee, or ankle, and are out for weeks at a time? Focusing on a specific type of medical condition, in a small subset of our overall population is just cherry-picking data figures.
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COL Jon Thompson
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS I understand what you are saying and it is good to have people that are trained to step up. Still, I see a difference between an injury that happened in the line of duty and pregnancy. While both take someone out of the fight, I am unaware of an injury that gives a person 12 months off. If it is that severe, they are medically boarded and most likely will be retired. Pregnancy is not line of duty and yet they will get over a year of non-deployability and also 4 months of leave. The military is being cut so it's not really that there are more people who can fill billets, it will be someone having to step and do someone else's job usually along with their own. I don't see that as making us more robust. I do appreciate your viewpoints because I do tend to look at things from one angle. Thank you for your responses.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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COL Jon Thompson An I see your point as well, sir. But we long ago established that pregnancy and childbirth were natural parts of a persons life. We adjusted policy to where we no longer discharge females for getting pregnant (decades ago).

As for injuries that could take someone out of the fight, I have personally known two below knee amputees who stayed on active duty (one a Marine Intel Analyst , and the other an Army MP K9 Handler). Their recover was in line with the timelines you mention.

But.. pregnancy doesn't take you out of the fight for a year. It puts you on Light Duty for a solid portion, then Limited Duty, then Convalescence leave. This is really no different than any other Medical condition, like a broken leg, or a torn ACL, etc.

As for downsizing, budgetary cuts, etc, those are distractions from the primary argument. We must not try to use those as excuses for why we cannot do something, when we would be able to do something if the Force was remaining at a static size. If the Force's numbers were stable, having the ability to make everyone interchangable, does make us more robust. It is the "Every Marine is a Rifleman" philosophy taken to another step.

Why shouldn't a female Intel Analyst be able to serve in ANY Intel Analyst position, regardless of unit? Why shouldn't a female MP? If they are qualified to hold that position, it should be an T/O position in the Force. Therefore placing artificial limits on where they can be assigned is intentionally limiting our capabilities making us a less robust Force. The reverse of that should also hold true. That's just from MOS that aren't restricted by gender. I'm not even trying to delve into the MOS issue, but the analogies hold true "if" the person is MOS qualified.
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Capt Seid Waddell
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This is what happens when we forget the primary mission.
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