Posted on Oct 21, 2016
How many people here think Citizens United was a legal reaffirmation of Corporate personhood espoused by the 14th Amendment?
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One, all of the selections you have are loaded and have an obvious slant. Nevertheless to answer your question, NO! Citizens United is not a legal affirmation because money is not free speech. Ask the poor how effective their voices are vs the affluent. Also, corporations are NOT a representative sample as they do not represent the entirety of America nor do they have the average America citizen's well being as a priority.
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SPC Erich Guenther
A Corporation by law is a group of individuals with a common business interest running a business. It's not about rich vs poor but more speaking to the absolute power of Congress. Note how many on one side of the aisle like to demonize Corporations and that works fine as long as the response is always suppressed there is no response BUT is that really free speech? However if they can respond back it's very bad and has to be stopped. However Corporate Personhood is in fact part of case law. I went through Bus Law at the University of Wisconsin and it was taught in 1988 long before Citizens United as I am sure it was at other Business Schools. It's only an issue because the Democrats feel threatened with their finger pointing and the Democrats made it an issue. As for poor people they can join a non-profit Corporation or create one and speak using the same vehicle, nothing stopping them there. Why is more speech a bad thing for the First Amendment?
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CW3 Stephen Mills
Just because you pool your money with others or start a corporation doesn't mean you lose your rights to free speech. I have no problem with person-hood of corporations. I do think when corporations contribute to political causes their board and directors should be identified.
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Maj John Bell
SSG Michael Hartsfield - The poor may not have the voice of the affluent but they most certainly have the numbers at the polls. Perhaps a delicate balance exists.
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You forgot to ask the question, what are republicans afraid of?? How can a businesses be people?
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SPC Erich Guenther
It's always been recognized in the Court System that a Corporation is a group of people with basically the same Constitutional rights as a individual.
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Capt (Join to see)
A far better question is how can a corporation not be people. Do you think they are made up of robots?
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Citizens United came down the way it did, because it had to come down the way it did.
It started with a Free Speech issue. Either Free Speech is allowed in all its forms, or it's not. Saying Hillary the Movie was not allowed merely because it was political in nature is the exact reason we have the 1st Amendment. The Government is not to stop Free Speech from being exercised. Either from an Individual, or Collectively.
All Rights are individual in nature. Some Rights require a collective power to be fully brought to bear. Assembly is one such example, the militia is another. The press is a third. Corporations are no different.
The fact that money is involved is quite frankly irrelevant. Money is merely the method that free speech is being executed. If I dedicated all of my wordly posessions to shouting that a candidate was unfit for office, that is free speech. If I got together with others to do the same, it would still be free speech. If we form a corporation.. how is that not free speech?
It started with a Free Speech issue. Either Free Speech is allowed in all its forms, or it's not. Saying Hillary the Movie was not allowed merely because it was political in nature is the exact reason we have the 1st Amendment. The Government is not to stop Free Speech from being exercised. Either from an Individual, or Collectively.
All Rights are individual in nature. Some Rights require a collective power to be fully brought to bear. Assembly is one such example, the militia is another. The press is a third. Corporations are no different.
The fact that money is involved is quite frankly irrelevant. Money is merely the method that free speech is being executed. If I dedicated all of my wordly posessions to shouting that a candidate was unfit for office, that is free speech. If I got together with others to do the same, it would still be free speech. If we form a corporation.. how is that not free speech?
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