Posted on Dec 2, 2014
How does the majority feel about body cameras for police officers nationwide?
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I know some areas in the U.S, police departments have already implemented this plan in their daily routines. I wonder if it will in fact improve relations between cops and the communities or will it fail. It's a great idea because the cameras serve for the cops safety and ours as well. There's just a certain way I feel about police policing their own. I feel in many cases that a police officer will back up a fellow police officer no matter what. Maybe a neutral party to monitor these devices? What are your thoughts on this new plan?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30290308
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30290308
Posted 10 y ago
Responses: 55
Lt Col (Join to see)
Agreed. It will either change the behavior of the officers, or it will present a credible story supporting the officers in question.
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LTC Paul Labrador
A good example in my field is why some ER folks don't like family watching cardiac codes. They worry that something they say will be perceived as offensive. ER folks tend to be very frank and have morbid sense of humors. Sometimes things we say can be perceived as rude or offensive when in reality it's how ER folks cope with the stress.
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CMSgt James Nolan
SSG Jim Foreman I think that what LTC Paul Labrador meant by that is that IA or a review board does not just randomly sift through the activities of the officers to "catch them" doing something. The cameras would be reviewed when for example there was a violent action, or complaint. No fishing expeditions.
Policing is extremely difficult at best. We need tough cops, just as we need tough "soldiers" to do a job that is unforgiving, split second decisions are judged for years to come, everyone becomes an expert on "what an officer should have done". If the cameras get misused by departments, the departments will have no trust with command. It will snowball, and we could see officers slow down responses so as not to put themselves in jeopardy of complaint and discipline, thereby endangering the populace even more. I hope that the cameras get used properly, and not as some kind of screening tool.
Policing is extremely difficult at best. We need tough cops, just as we need tough "soldiers" to do a job that is unforgiving, split second decisions are judged for years to come, everyone becomes an expert on "what an officer should have done". If the cameras get misused by departments, the departments will have no trust with command. It will snowball, and we could see officers slow down responses so as not to put themselves in jeopardy of complaint and discipline, thereby endangering the populace even more. I hope that the cameras get used properly, and not as some kind of screening tool.
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SSG Jim Foreman
LTC Labrador. Now I understand what you mean. As a retired police officer that would be my concern. In California we are protected by our POA (most of the time). Cameras, like GPS in vehicles is to only be used when there is a citizens complaint.
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SGT (Join to see)
LTC Paul Labrador Thanks for elaborating! As I thought we were thinking along the same lines.
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I am completely for this! It takes the "he said/she said" out of the picture! It is easy to defer to the Officer that they are "right/telling the truth" based on an almost ingrained respect for LEO's but to be fair people abuse power. This is a perfect check and balance.
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LTC Paul Heinlein
TSgt Joshua Copeland,
Currently, as far as I know, the body cameras have to be activated by the officer, unlike the vehicle cameras which activate and start recording when the emergency lights go on, or if an officer manually has it start recording.
If the body cameras automatically started recording, and for some reason it was messed with so it did not, then I could see no giving the LEO the benefit of the doubt.
But, if the officer has to start it, then just because they did not activate it should not be automatic "disbelief" in their statements. Officers do not always know when something bad is going to happen.
Keeping the camera always running is currently not an option, because of the ones I know of, the batteries and memory only last from 4-8 hours of constant use or less. Then, there is the problem of the temporary and permanent storage of the data.
Currently, as far as I know, the body cameras have to be activated by the officer, unlike the vehicle cameras which activate and start recording when the emergency lights go on, or if an officer manually has it start recording.
If the body cameras automatically started recording, and for some reason it was messed with so it did not, then I could see no giving the LEO the benefit of the doubt.
But, if the officer has to start it, then just because they did not activate it should not be automatic "disbelief" in their statements. Officers do not always know when something bad is going to happen.
Keeping the camera always running is currently not an option, because of the ones I know of, the batteries and memory only last from 4-8 hours of constant use or less. Then, there is the problem of the temporary and permanent storage of the data.
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
LTC Paul Heinlein, that is why I stated "could" vs. saying it "should" or "will".
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LTC Paul Heinlein
TSgt Joshua Copeland,
Tracking...specificity of words matter....hope all is well. Best Wishes, Paul Heinlein
Tracking...specificity of words matter....hope all is well. Best Wishes, Paul Heinlein
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I think police should have body cameras because 3rd party recording can be screwed with and police need to be able to show thier side and counter any 3rd party recording
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It will help the honest cops and piss off the defense lawyers and provide truth in after action reports.Â
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You have cellphone cameras that have shown everything and the cops still get off with punishment. The only thing those body cameras are going to do is NOTHING. it's wasted money.
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I hope it removes the doubt that Americans feel about what's happened recently. I know that they are but a mere handful but if this allays their doubts and helps the police depts. I'm all for it!
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With all the current events taking place this no longer a brainer, They need to fund this mission for all in Uniform and wouldn't hurt for Military Police to also have them during incidents that involve Terrorist attacks at post gates. Most recent Police incident happen in Baltimore 1 week ago.
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All for it, as long as we are equal. Let's get criminals to wear em too. That'll even it out.
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