Posted on Jun 26, 2015
MAJ Ken Landgren
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I feel stable but apathetic to most things. I force myself to work out five days a week and clean on the weekends. Nothing seems to satisfy me except sleeping in. No hobbies excite me. Don't get me wrong, I have gratitude for being stable, but I am disappointed that I am often apathetic.
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Is there a full conclusion of PTSD? If so I am looking forward to it.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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Where are you on your journey?
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MAJ Ken Landgren,
I am staying the course still on meds and keeping up with my mental health and psychiatric treatment
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CAPT Kevin B.
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It never concludes. Problem is the system looks to cut you off at the diminishing returns to them point. If you are in the "Manage the Dragon" stage like me, you'll see there isn't much realistically more that can be done other than maintenance work. It's like an addiction. You'll always have it, can't run from it, and can't put makeup on it. My big thing has been to always look to the future and all the things I want to do and then get off my ass and do them. I'm leaving in a few weeks for my (probably last) annual trip to Europe to referee soccer tournaments. Age and knees have much to do with it but I have a shopping list of other things to enjoy.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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Thank you for your perspective. I am glad I asked this question. I presume I have to create a finish line that pulls me to it, as the intellectual approach is no longer effective.
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CAPT Kevin B.
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MAJ Ken Landgren You need to be intellectual but also realistic. There is no finish line, just the desire to pick and choose how you are going to live the rest of your life and whether you control it or the Dragon controls you. I do maintenance counseling, have been off the meds for some time, and have accepted that I'll always have this "thing". The reason WW2 vets wouldn't talk is when we males talk, we relive it. Good counseling helps get you to the point where when (there will always be a when) you talk about it, it's not as vivid and the emotions aren't as skewed as they once were. Even so, we prefer not to talk about it. For me it wasn't as much about the bad times but what I thought I became and thought I liked it.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
MAJ Ken Landgren
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Well sir I was hoping a solution is to fake it until you make it.
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CAPT Kevin B.
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Sorry, "hope" isn't a strategy either. Good luck.
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SSG Ed Mikus
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PTSD therapy is never permanently conclusive.

I am sorry about your apathy Sir, I was having this issue to, My Doc changed my meds, that helped some, she said when i return from this 4 month course we will change all my meds and find a more satisfactory regiment with a path off the meds (which is my stated goal).

I imagine the solution is different for everyone, all i can say is never stop moving forward and always be willing to find a new path. Best wishes!
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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I was curios to know if their is an end state and what is it.
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SSG Ed Mikus
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from everyone i have talked to Sir, there is no end state, there are great periods of stability with no need of assistance, but symptoms will return.

I tried too ignore the return of mine and they became worse than the original. I am now ready to address any return and my wife is ready to point out any need for assistance i may have to me.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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My approach is to stay numb but being numb is a double edged sword. Please do work with the wife.
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