Posted on Aug 23, 2015
How can I clear CIF for items that I am not supposed to have?
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I am trying to get my gear ready to for turn in, but I can't seem to understand why I have a pair of small arms black plates on my clothing record. I have not had this black plates since I turned them in coming back from Afghanistan. Is there any way to reconcile this issue without having to pay for something that I honestly don't have?
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92Y: Unit Supply Specialist
Supply
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Getting with Supply is only part of it. You need to to have documented proof you turned it in. Sad to say but the CIF system is broken in that the updates and turn ins do not always take effect. I advise my soldier that if they do not have records or never received the T/I document from CIF then draft a memorandum to be signed by the unit commander listing the names and the details of the turn in. I.e. time date location and the supervisor of the turn in team. Then Supply can send that forward to CIF and they will usually pull it from all the listed people's records. If Not, then Supply will need to work with the command staff and the BN and BDE level and PBO and file a DD200 against the CIF station . That works well especially if you have witness statements from multiple soldiers who witnessed the turn in. Refer to AR 735-5 chap 13
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SSG Rick Austin
CIF has ALWAYS been broken since I was in from 77-92... Had a steel pot that we would use to Bath and cook in while in Germany. Went to turn it in guy says we can't accept this it has burn marks on it. I'm looking behind him at a bin full of steel pots that have sen much better days... took it to motor pool, painted it with OD spray paint and right back to CIF. Guy states... you didn't have to paint it, just brushed it off... what a maroon..
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CPT John Hermida You are correct get with the Supply NCO he should have Records going back at least 6 years. I kept all my records for 9 years and it served me and my Commanders well. I have seen CIF try to pull this stuff on a regular basis and if you did something in Iraq or Afghanistan the CIF records do not automatically update as they should. Same goes for PBO Operations down Range.
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SSG John Bacon
Also if it was a 1 for 1 swap do you have the Green or Tan Plates that you received if so get with the CIF PBO and explain what happened just having the plates is proof of the 1 for 1 swap. Or is this an issue where they put the Tan or Green plates on your record and just didn't remove the Black "Training" plates?
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SPC (Join to see)
This could be result of not getting the initial CIF when I got to Hood. I was deployed within 2 months so my initial gear was OEF pattern.
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Unfortunately as a Unit Supply Sergeant I see this all too often. Harsh reality is that unless you have paperwork from Afghanistan proving you turned them in you are likely going to be paying for them.
This is why I urge Soldier of ALL ranks to make sure they get copies of turn in and issue transactions and that they keep those records in their "I love me" files at home.
You never know when stuff like this rears its ugly head.
This is why I urge Soldier of ALL ranks to make sure they get copies of turn in and issue transactions and that they keep those records in their "I love me" files at home.
You never know when stuff like this rears its ugly head.
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SSG (Join to see)
another one will be if you get charge maintain a copy of the Statement of charges for 5 year, Finances tent to make mistakes and charge you again.
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