Have the women with combat jobs in the Rangers and Special Forces actually been fighting along side men?

We’re talking about rt now! No life lost for doing the duty of protecting women for a social experiment.

It's not that women don't belong in combat, it's their need to break the barriers that exist like SF training. Men have different muscular and physiological differences

They reap what they sow. Men no longer want to join a politically correct military The experiment and results are succeeding their goals. It took 50 yrs.

Aho!!! Brother Eric. Thank You for the info and sources.

I am sure those serving in these types of units aren't actively trying to broadcast their service. I had a opportunity to speak to one of the first female graduates of Ranger school. She did not like the attention, and would have much rather been the quiet professional that attracted her to the profession in the first place. Same with the female Sapper graduates. They want to do their jobs and don't need articles published showing they are successful. They want their OER/NCOER to speak for itself and move along with their career.

We all run into professionals every day, and never once question their ability, until they show they cannot. Then it is up to us, as senior leaders, to put the right people in the right place at the right point in their career.

I would presume that the negative reaction seen in this thread is because the question continually comes up in the context that females have to demonstrate their value to this organization in order to be treated as a Soldier.

glad you served alongside women in your units....but as the question was asked...was that a Ranger or Special Forces unit they were serving in along with you or are you comparing apples and oranges here?

TSgt James Sutton -
No, not SF of Ranger Bats.
3 in support roles in two different infantry companies. One supply, 2 admins. Where I might not have cared for one of them, I felt very comfortable with them having to cover their side jobs: security, convoys, training, etc. One was also the police liaison for counter-drug enforcement activities. One deployed with our infantry company for peace keeping operations. One of the first females to do so. Professional, capable and competent.
I also worked with multiple females it a training support batallion and in the medical field. Many medics, MP's, among other MOS's.
As an instructor I was able to observe many female soldiers in training environments and felt comfortable with most of them and their abilities.
The ones I had issues with, were the same types of issues I saw with male soldiers. Not willing to listen, egos, physical and mental capabilities.
The only real issues I had were the guys playing hero, trying to get "favors"/attention from the females, and of course the females who prey on them. There have been many times (not as rare as you would think) males and females who couldn't keep their hands off of each other, instead of paying attention to their tasks and sectors.
In fact, nothing new for the military environment.

Overall, I feel comfortable with women in these roles. If they can complete their training, pull their weight, competently fill a role, be willing to take the risk and stay out of trouble, I see no reason for them to not be there. Operations in the middle east, and other parts of the world, have proven that there is a need.

I met an E7 who was in charge of a special rescue unit in Afghanistan. One of his men was reassigned stateside. They sent a female replacement. The E7 said. "Welcome aboard. This is the job description of the man you'll be replacing. She whips out the stress card. and says, "I'm not doing that!" He stated that this was not stateside and the team had to do things this way in a combat zone in order to avoid casualties." She replied, "Not doing it" she reported him. He got busted from E8. I asked him, "Sooo, what are you doing now? He replied, "After 18 yrs, I'm getting out. " His life was shattered by Clinton's experiment. So sad.

TSgt James Sutton I wasn’t minimizing anything. I was just providing some information and context in regards to women in combat.I also accompanied my post with questions to better understand the original question in case what I provided missed the mark

Really!

The one common missing thread that I noticed in the preceding statements have been observations of female effectiveness while under real world combat stress conditions, not just training scenarios. If there are any, please speak up and provide evidence of same. As presented previously, there are serious physiologic differences between males and females. And please spare me the usual crap about men who also fail to handle combat conditions. Thay are usually weeded out. So please present actual combat related experience with evidence of the same. Then, we can have an intelligent ((not emotional) conversation.

SMSgt Clayton Cortinas - I can't speak to Women in Combat MOS's as that happened after I left AD but Women in Combat isn't new. The Marine Corps had the Lioness Program (not to be confused with a TV show of the same name). Female Marines attached to Forward Units to Assist with interacting with local females while adhering to cultural norms. They performed well and many were in direct combat during their missions. There are also plenty of other instances with combat and air combat situations where Female service members did just fine.