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"Ernst has opened the door to hold herself up to these military standards. She cannot divorce herself from being actively in the U.S. military while using her rank and position as a political strategy. All the people she commands still look up to her as a role model throughout this time."
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/abetteriowa/2014/10/30/joni-ernst-military-protocol/18208453/
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/abetteriowa/2014/10/30/joni-ernst-military-protocol/18208453/
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It's tempting to dismiss criticism of Sen Ernst's behavior as nothing more than a vendetta by those holding opposing political and ideological viewpoints. It's just as easy to dismiss those who support her as being inclined to ignore her alleged infractions for the same reason. Thus, I acknowledge that I am walking a fine line when I support her and render my opinion that she is in compliance with her duties and the regulations.
The simple fact is that she has said nothing that isn't a self-evident fact. We are lost the day it becomes unlawful (or mutinous) to state the truth. Everyone has the right to defend themselves. This right is not granted by the Constitution. It is a natural or God-given right. If those higher on the chain of command wish to interpret that point as being mutinous, it is more likely that they are failing in their obligation to not infringe on individuals right to defend themselves. In other words, they are the ones guilty of mutiny.
That's my humble opinion...
The simple fact is that she has said nothing that isn't a self-evident fact. We are lost the day it becomes unlawful (or mutinous) to state the truth. Everyone has the right to defend themselves. This right is not granted by the Constitution. It is a natural or God-given right. If those higher on the chain of command wish to interpret that point as being mutinous, it is more likely that they are failing in their obligation to not infringe on individuals right to defend themselves. In other words, they are the ones guilty of mutiny.
That's my humble opinion...
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Democrats get nastier and more vitriolic. They shame the nation as those who are veterans and SM because they do not appreciate or care what older veterans like myself went through. It is maddening but not surprising.. With the high number of senior officers being fired, payback is going to be ruthless, as it should be.
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CPT Jack Durish
SSgt (Join to see) I'm not sure that this is an issue about Democrats. The issue at hand is the criticism of Sen Ernst's behavior as it relates to the law. Granted, much of that criticism originates on the Left, but that is not the exclusive purview of Democrats. There are plenty of Republicans who lean that way.
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They are finally realizing that America is pissed off (excuse my language) and the blow back relates to being chastised for not doing their jobs. Rather going on about gays, transvestites and ladies in combat and the firing of so many top ranking military.
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As a member of the Iowa National Guard, she is actually only subject to UCMJ while on Federal orders. She is instead subject to the Iowa Code of Military Justice.
From my brief reading of it (and I'm not a lawyer), there is nothing in the code about the Commander In Chief.
29B.88 INSUBORDINATE CONDUCT TOWARD WARRANT OFFICER, NONCOMMISSIONED OFFICER, OR PETTY OFFICER.
Any warrant officer or enlisted member shall be punished as a court-martial may direct if the person does any of the following:
1. Strikes or assaults a warrant officer, noncommissioned officer, or petty officer, while that officer is in the execution of the officer's office.
2. Willfully disobeys the lawful order of a warrant officer, noncommissioned officer, or petty officer.
3. Treats with contempt or is disrespectful in language or deportment toward a warrant officer, noncommissioned officer, or petty officer, while that officer is in the execution of the officer's office.
Reference:
http://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool-ICE/default.asp?category=billinfo&service=IowaCode&ga=83&input=29B
From my brief reading of it (and I'm not a lawyer), there is nothing in the code about the Commander In Chief.
29B.88 INSUBORDINATE CONDUCT TOWARD WARRANT OFFICER, NONCOMMISSIONED OFFICER, OR PETTY OFFICER.
Any warrant officer or enlisted member shall be punished as a court-martial may direct if the person does any of the following:
1. Strikes or assaults a warrant officer, noncommissioned officer, or petty officer, while that officer is in the execution of the officer's office.
2. Willfully disobeys the lawful order of a warrant officer, noncommissioned officer, or petty officer.
3. Treats with contempt or is disrespectful in language or deportment toward a warrant officer, noncommissioned officer, or petty officer, while that officer is in the execution of the officer's office.
Reference:
http://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool-ICE/default.asp?category=billinfo&service=IowaCode&ga=83&input=29B
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So out of curiosity, why haven't they mentioned Tulsi Gabbard?
She is a National Guard CPT in the Hawaii guard and serves as a US Representative (and on the Armed Forces committee too).
Has she broken military protocol? Or is this all the standard political bias? (Gabbard is a Democrat and Ernst is a Republican)
She is a National Guard CPT in the Hawaii guard and serves as a US Representative (and on the Armed Forces committee too).
Has she broken military protocol? Or is this all the standard political bias? (Gabbard is a Democrat and Ernst is a Republican)
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CPT Zachary Brooks
SFC James Sczymanski I have edited my post to notate those specifics, thanks for the clarification.
Everything I have read on Rep Gabbard leads me to have the utmost respect for her, I was mostly pointing out the media bias. I do agree with you if things are the other way (but the media at large is generally more critical of Rs and supportive of Ds).
Everything I have read on Rep Gabbard leads me to have the utmost respect for her, I was mostly pointing out the media bias. I do agree with you if things are the other way (but the media at large is generally more critical of Rs and supportive of Ds).
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CPT Zachary Brooks
SFC James Sczymanski Well why the heck isn't she on RP then? Let's get her and Sen Ernst on here! Get some actual face time with Congress and help out ideas like the Arm the Troops ones from Capt Richard I P.
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Capt Richard I P.
CPT Zachary Brooks I think the line of thought is that the Honorable Ms Ernst has been straying awful close to an article 88 issue.
And I'm totally on board with getting NG and veteran politicians up on RP.
SFC James Sczymanski if you could contact her and recruit her onto RP that'd be great, but even if you can't, shooting a copy of the Arm the Armed Forces letter would be awesome! https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/arm-the-armed-forces
And I'm totally on board with getting NG and veteran politicians up on RP.
SFC James Sczymanski if you could contact her and recruit her onto RP that'd be great, but even if you can't, shooting a copy of the Arm the Armed Forces letter would be awesome! https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/arm-the-armed-forces
Arm the Armed Forces! | RallyPoint
The outcome of the discussion "Concealed carry for CAC holders?" by [~222148:SGT Bernard Boyer III]. Below follows my skeleton letter to congress, based on the edits RP members have suggested to the 10 points. Anyone and everyone is welcome to edit and personalize the letter for their own use in writing to their congressional representatives. We sent a mass email on 3 January, the swearing in of the new congress, now it's a free for all. You...
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