Posted on May 30, 2015
Gay, Lesbian, Bisexuals Soon To Be Granted Protected Class Status By DOD: Is this policy consistent with the UCMJ and Service Culture?
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According to a report in the Washington Blade and then republished in the British media, the DOD is set to announce as early as next week a major revision to it's Equal Opportunity Policy that will include sexual orientation as a Protected Class. What do you think, RP? Is granting Protected Class status conducive to maintaining good order and discipline in a fair and equitable manner for all Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines, and Coast Guard personnel or is it giving a certain class of personnel more protections than others?
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I think there is valid reason to be concerned whenever one group is considered "protected" and another isn't. At the very least, there will be those who perceive that personnel in the protected class are receiving something that they are not. Obviously, a lot has to do with how commanders implement the policy and whether they are seen as biased one way or the other.
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I personally don't care what an individual's orientation is. People have been serving in all militaries with all types of orientation for hundreds and thousands of years. You went through GYM class, if you did sports you probably have showered with various orientations FOR YEARS! Sorry. I think that as professionals, we have the capability to ACT that way (like a professional)...around everyone. I think that protected status only paints a bigger target on the issue. People will be arguing about over protection, under protection, double standards..... 1 standard, all people, period.
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Capt Seid Waddell
Maj Chris Nelson, "I think that protected status only paints a bigger target on the issue. People will be arguing about over protection, under protection, double standards..... 1 standard, all people, period."
Well put, sir.
Well put, sir.
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I think limitedly its a good idea. I'm in favor of this life style, but I also see where women and minorities still have problems in sectors of life, which makes me more supportive of it but at the same time women and minorities do not have it but they suffer. I guess I'm not explaining my position too well... it all boils down to it'd be great if they didn't have to have it, but for a limited time because of the homophobia in our country it might be good for a bit.
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Number 4. this was one of those consequences. Affirmative action codified.
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Seems legit. The Air Force was the first to fully integrate (1949) and there are still complaints based on race.
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My new novel features a character based on a fellow comrade who, well, you get the gist. MY WAR WITH HEMINGWAY. They don't call it a "lifestyle." Do you call heterosexuality a lifestyle?
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I will never look down on someone nor ever judge them based on sexual orientation, but then again, all sexual orientations should fall under the same protection, not just a select number. No matter what your orientation, you're a soldier. As long as you do your job you fall in line right next to the rest of us who served honorably.
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This is what redefining marriage is all about. I retired before Obama evolved . They knew he lied. I have on my read things in FB that you have to attend an orientation class about homosexuality. Being in the military is about serving your country . Not your life style or agenda. You saw what they did to the pizza owner who just said he would not carter a gay wedding. And this is not the fifties. To get back to the question . Blacks and Jews are a protected a class. In my opinion the military is going to loose a lot of good people. Please bear with me if I went to fare.
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I have no issue with anyone's choice in who they love. That being said, in my opinion, if we have to make someone "protected" then it throws equality straight out the window.
Yes, I know that there is homophobia, racism, sexism, and everything else in the military. It is everywhere in our world. However, I believe overcoming those things, without having to "hide" behind protection makes people great. I was bullied as a child. I was nerdy, weak, a momma's boy, and wore clothes from the Salvation Army. I stopped the bullying by finally fighting back, not because someone listed "nerdy kids getting beat up" as a protected class.
Sorry, I'll get off my soapbox now.
Yes, I know that there is homophobia, racism, sexism, and everything else in the military. It is everywhere in our world. However, I believe overcoming those things, without having to "hide" behind protection makes people great. I was bullied as a child. I was nerdy, weak, a momma's boy, and wore clothes from the Salvation Army. I stopped the bullying by finally fighting back, not because someone listed "nerdy kids getting beat up" as a protected class.
Sorry, I'll get off my soapbox now.
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