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As a Barracks Proctor appointed by 1SG, I have been tasked with ensuring the good order and discipline of all soldiers residing on my floor of the barracks, enforcing cleaning standards, and ensuring all soldiers on my floor have an acceptable living condition.
This is a fairly "old" barracks building, and as such have a communal latrine, laundry room, etc. In order to ensure that the living conditions on our floor are acceptable and hygienic, I have instituted a rotational cleaning roster and require all soldiers to clean the barracks at 1130 hours on Sundays.
I understand that some soldiers have prior engagements on weekends and am more than willing to excuse them provided they notifying me ahead of time.
All soldiers residing on my floor have been given an initial counseling explaining these standards and duties with the initial support of 1SG. The issue arises when certain soldiers fail to meet these standards either by not reporting for cleaning duties or failing to notify me of their intended absence. I then proceed to counsel these soldiers again, with their leaders present, about dereliction of duty and assigned corrective training, i.e. these soldiers will clean the barracks this weekend while others are excused.
all of a sudden leaders who have until this point have presented a virtually nonexistent presence in the barracks are up in arms about how cleaning on the weekend is not justified and that team leaders should have been called immediately when their soldier failed to report.
I was educated that one junior level leader's responsibility is to be aware of their soldiers assigned duties (the roster is posted well in advance) and to ensure their soldier is present for these duties.
Why is this even an issue? Why does it appear that as a NCO corps, we cannot enforce basic discipline amongst our soldiers without catching "flak" from fellow NCOs? What ever happened to "My two basic responsibilities will always be uppermost in my mind, accomplishment of my mission and the welfare of my soldiers?" The mission being the post commanders barracks policy and welfare of my soldiers being clean and hygienic living conditions.
This is a fairly "old" barracks building, and as such have a communal latrine, laundry room, etc. In order to ensure that the living conditions on our floor are acceptable and hygienic, I have instituted a rotational cleaning roster and require all soldiers to clean the barracks at 1130 hours on Sundays.
I understand that some soldiers have prior engagements on weekends and am more than willing to excuse them provided they notifying me ahead of time.
All soldiers residing on my floor have been given an initial counseling explaining these standards and duties with the initial support of 1SG. The issue arises when certain soldiers fail to meet these standards either by not reporting for cleaning duties or failing to notify me of their intended absence. I then proceed to counsel these soldiers again, with their leaders present, about dereliction of duty and assigned corrective training, i.e. these soldiers will clean the barracks this weekend while others are excused.
all of a sudden leaders who have until this point have presented a virtually nonexistent presence in the barracks are up in arms about how cleaning on the weekend is not justified and that team leaders should have been called immediately when their soldier failed to report.
I was educated that one junior level leader's responsibility is to be aware of their soldiers assigned duties (the roster is posted well in advance) and to ensure their soldier is present for these duties.
Why is this even an issue? Why does it appear that as a NCO corps, we cannot enforce basic discipline amongst our soldiers without catching "flak" from fellow NCOs? What ever happened to "My two basic responsibilities will always be uppermost in my mind, accomplishment of my mission and the welfare of my soldiers?" The mission being the post commanders barracks policy and welfare of my soldiers being clean and hygienic living conditions.
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Posted 10 y ago
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I agree with having a "barracks manager" that is responsible for good order and discipline of the barracks but when it comes to common areas it should be a unit responsibility. The barracks manager or NCO should collect work orders, ensure work orders are completed, possibly assist the 1SG with the BUR, etc. Each section or platoon should have a common area that they are responsible to clean daily. Those areas can rotate on a monthly basis so the same section doesn't get stuck cleaning the crapper all the time or whatever.
Sounds like your 1SG should put more emphasis on getting his junior NCOs into the barracks. That is a lot of responsibility for one NCO especially when you are dealing with Soldiers from different sections or platoons that live in the area.
I agree with having a "barracks manager" that is responsible for good order and discipline of the barracks but when it comes to common areas it should be a unit responsibility. The barracks manager or NCO should collect work orders, ensure work orders are completed, possibly assist the 1SG with the BUR, etc. Each section or platoon should have a common area that they are responsible to clean daily. Those areas can rotate on a monthly basis so the same section doesn't get stuck cleaning the crapper all the time or whatever.
Sounds like your 1SG should put more emphasis on getting his junior NCOs into the barracks. That is a lot of responsibility for one NCO especially when you are dealing with Soldiers from different sections or platoons that live in the area.
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Dude your a dick. Have them clean the barracks during the week. Ain’t nobody got time for an 1130 show on a day off
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and IF, by some strange reason, it is impossible to clean during the week, do the cleaning either early Saturday morning or late Sunday evening. That way it doesn't screw up the whole weekend for people who want to leave for the weekend. 1130 on Sunday morning is ridiculous.
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